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AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by Dig1t »

Zopieux wrote: post #29

Most people love making AI music by throwing a 5-word prompt at Suno and being in awe at "their" creation. However, it is also a fact that the vast majority of people can't care less to listen to their friends' and family's Sunos, as they were not involved in the process and therefore can't vibe to the random soul-less soup. Please keep your slop for yourself.

To be honest I’ve been having the opposite experience. There are lots of cool niche playlists on YouTube that cater to specific ideas.

Like “40’s gangster jazz”, or “studying in the Hogwarts library”, etc

It’s the majority of what I listen to lately and it’s been pretty good.

On a related note, I was working with someone recently and he put on a jazz playlist he found on YouTube. We both enjoyed the music and neither of us realized it was AI until about halfway through the playlist.

I don’t think it’s a big deal that it’s AI, as long as you enjoy the music.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by yunwal »

CharlesW wrote: post #27
rchaud wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Music isn't a solo business and doesn't report its figures publicly, so it's not known if its margins would be sustainable if it weren't anchored to its much bigger Software and Services unit, which itself is anchored to an even bigger hardware sales unit.

Spotify pays ~70% of revenue to rights-holders, so unless you assume that Apple is paying a lot more, Apple Music is almost certainly profitable both as a standalone service and as a strategic bundle driver.

Apple pays about 3x as much per stream as Spotify according to most sources.

https://musosoup.com/blog/does-apple-music-pay-artists-more-...

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Post by netsharc »

rhetocj23 wrote: post #17
WXLCKNO wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, on YouTube the AI slop music has been trending even more. I hadn't experienced it on Spotify however and only last month they had stated that AI music would be tagged as such.

My personal consumption of YT has dropped pretty sharply - I only go on there for specific content that I personally pick out myself. The recommendations have become really bad progressively IME over the past 2 years.

I think they've tiktokified everything, hoping to catch you with some bait. Including the search results page, you get maybe 5 relevant videos and then the viral stuff.

I say "I think" because I've also ended up activating the content filter in my brain and stopping myself from looking further when I notice "Oh this part of the site has viral infection". Perhaps it's better with history enabled?

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by lotsofpulp »

rchaud wrote: post #13

Spotify's biggest enemy are the record labels that they have to pay license fees to. Slowly ramp up the AI slop while ramping down the label-owned material and hope subscribers don't notice. It's a play that worked for Netflix, which used to have every major show a decade ago and is now majority mass-produced Netflix Original slop.

>which used to have every major show a decade ago and is now majority mass-produced Netflix Original slop.

Many Apple Original, Amazon Original, Comcast Original, Disney Original, Skydance Original, Sony Original, are also “slop”.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by hedora »

I’ve been using tidal since forever because Spotify’s recommendations were crap, and Apple Music’s weren’t good.

I think I’ve heard one AI slop thing in my daily discovery queue, once.

It’s hard to say if that one track was ai slop or not, given my tastes (I downloaded Poppy, Music to Scream To, for example).

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by hedora »

rchaud wrote: post #10
tjr wrote: post #2

How about vinyl? How much AI slop is being pressed onto vinyl records?

Zero. Vinyl has costs of production, AI slop doesn't.

Not zero: https://www.reddit.com/r/fantanoforever/comments/1jnf82d/guy...

On a related note, my vinyl collection is looking more and more prescient over time.

If streaming gets sufficiently bad, I’ll just spend the subscription fee on newly released records, and artists will get a lot more than they do now.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by Barrin92 »

one thing that I've never regretted, and is paying dividends, is that I've been buying and collecting physical music since I was a teen and grown my own library. Thankfully I have a lot of music buffs in my family who encouraged it.

What I do is pick one or two dozen records at the beginning of the year and limit myself to them, listen actively instead of just putting it on, don't just treat it like noise. Don't need to bother with any subscription service or AI bs. Even before the AI slop if you looked at the numbers, random influencer crap was much more heavily promoted than some of the greatest music in human history, there's such a recency bias in the entire streaming industry.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by randycupertino »

rchaud wrote: post #21
randycupertino wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed music in TV shows is AI slop so they don't have to pay licensing fees lately as well. I was watching Unsolved the series about the Notorious BIG and Tupac murders a few weeks ago and in one of the club scenes a "Biggie" song that I'd never heard of was playing in the background, I wasn't familiar with that song so I googled it and it was an ai Biggie inspired recreation, not one of his actual songs.

That's awful. Stuff like this is why I mourn the loss of MTV and VH1; they would actually license artists' music in their Behind the Music documentary episodes, I discovered a lot of artists that way. The Beavis & Butthead and Daria shows in the '90s also used a lot of licensed music. When the DVD versions arrived in the mid-2000s, the music was removed and replaced by stock instrumentals; I'm not sure the torrents o…

> When the DVD versions arrived in the mid-2000s, the music was removed and replaced by stock instrumentals;

That's so annoying- that can replace the entire feel of a scene!

In the Unsolved instance I was annoyed because I was like, huh, I don't know this song let me go check it out, I thought I knew his whole catalogue! and then it was frustrating that it was just "him" singing some nonsense fake song. Just eery how they used an identical sounding voice too.

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