If not, I look forward to the next single-point-of-failure outage. And the next. And the next.
AWS outage shows internet users 'at mercy' of too few providers, experts say
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#32Re: AWS outage shows internet users 'at mercy' of too few providers, experts say
#33Wow, thanks experts! I never could have figured this out without you :)))
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#34Re: AWS outage shows internet users 'at mercy' of too few providers, experts say
#35Been a while since I worked in cloud but at least when I got out of it, the primitives where all shoring up to be generally very similar. Did multi cloud redundancy end up being too expensive? Tech didn't line up enough? No good business case? The elastic cloud story that never was? https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/pets-vs-cattle-the-elas... What happened?
Not a justifiable expense when no one else is resilient against their AWS region going down either. Also cross-cloud orchestration is quite dead because every provider is still 100% proprietary bullshit and the control plane is... kubernetes. We settled for kubernetes.
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#36Re: AWS outage shows internet users 'at mercy' of too few providers, experts say
#37This is what I call "fool's availability": reducing single points of failure (one cloud provider) without adding any actual redundancy. If you removed AWS/GCP/Azure/etc and just had 100 small providers scattered all over, the result would be hundreds of outages throughout the year, as opposed to one big outage every other year [in one region]. AWS is already way more reliable than any other provider. The real problem…
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#38This new post is interesting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45646777 "October 17, 2025, was my last day at Amazon Web Services... CloudFront is a CDN, a content delivery network, or, simply put, a large distributed cache for your cat photos. And a very successful one. Something like 30% of all internet traffic goes through CloudFront in one way or another. Pretty cool, huh? In practice, this means that with an…
No. No its not. But tech enthusiasts on HN and Reddit love it.
(Another 30% runs through cloudflare)
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#39The whole industry walked straight into the cloud service lock-in trap. How would we begin to wind back? I also think Docker is as much to blame as the bigger cloud vendors.
Why is docker to blame?
But now, people are quite happy to put their app in a Docker container and outsource all design and architecture decisions pertaining to data storage and performance.
And with that, the likes of ECS, Dynamo, RedShift, etc, are a somewhat reasonable answer to that. It's much easier to offer a distinct proposition around that state of affairs, than say a market that was solely based on EC2-esque VMs.
What I did not like, but absolutely expected, was this lurch towards near enough standardising one specific vendor's model. We're in quite a strange place atm, where AWS specific knowledge might actually have a slightly higher value than traditional DevOps skills for many organisations.
Felt like this all happened both at the speed of light, and in slow motion, at the same time.
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#40Can someone educate me on the solution to this? I assume most organizations, both small and large, just host on whatever provider they know or that costs them the least. If you have budget maybe you deploy to multiple providers for redundancy? But that increases cost and complexity. Who’s going to bother with colo given the cost / complexity? Who’s going to run a server from their office given ISP restrictions and do…