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Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by TheGateKeeper »

DanBC wrote: post #17
acomjean wrote: post #12

10 years ago the browser market was very different. ie dominant and many sites (banking in particular) "ie only". Mac had a version of ie and linux as a web surfing platform was wanting. Firefox has been a good thing. for those using firefox, the browser has more information. go to the address about:mozilla Maybe "information" is a stretch, but its fun.

A little bit more than 10 years ago there was IE on Unix. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX )

I actually have a copy of that still.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by chris_wot »

AJ007 wrote: post #14
dimitar wrote: post #2

Early Firefox felt really responsive and it was more functional and safe than IE. What happened? I still use it, but I definitely don't feel the same about it.

I was a big fan of Phoenix. What bothers me about modern Firefox is forced updates combined with surprise browser resets that break plug-ins and delete settings data. A few more of these and I'll finally have to switch 100% to Chromium (except for site testing.)

Uh... Chromium has automatic updates by default also!

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by mtgx »

dimitar wrote: post #2

Early Firefox felt really responsive and it was more functional and safe than IE. What happened? I still use it, but I definitely don't feel the same about it.

Chrome happened. When something even better comes along, you might not be as satisfied with the old solution, especially if it's just trying to play catch-up over the next few years.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by RyanMcGreal »

After making the jump from Netscape 4.5/4.72 to Mozilla 1.2, I stayed on Mozilla until Firefox 1.0 came out. I've been using Firefox ever since. I've got Chrome installed, mostly to check that websites work properly in it, but it never pulled me away from Firefox.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by PommeDeTerre »

dave1010uk wrote: post #26
tree_of_item wrote: post #20

>You said this is a lean, lightweight browser, but it's 8MB! I laugh at your silly lies! >Take it easy, sport. Phoenix has many files that override those in Mozilla, but it also has a new set of files. These files render a ton of files in Mozilla unnecessary, but we haven't yet stopped packaging the old files. It also still contains the modern theme and all the composer UI. In short, we haven't done any work yet to m…

Firefox is currently 17MB. It's pretty amazing that that size includes (off tge top of my head): JavaScript interpreter/compiler, HTML4 & 5 parser, XML parser, CSS parser, graphics engine, layout engine, WebGL, lots of typographical features, plugin API, extension API, DOM, BOM, developer tools.

It's much less impressive when you consider that Opera offers basically all of that, plus a built-in email client, and built-in BitTorrent support, and a built-in IRC client, and built-in ad blocking, among other features. And the largest Windows installer of the current 12.02 version is merely about 10.5 MB, too.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by eloisant »

ww520 wrote: post #28
dave1010uk wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox is currently 17MB. It's pretty amazing that that size includes (off tge top of my head): JavaScript interpreter/compiler, HTML4 & 5 parser, XML parser, CSS parser, graphics engine, layout engine, WebGL, lots of typographical features, plugin API, extension API, DOM, BOM, developer tools.

Plus Sqlite.

Well, Sqlite is between 4k and 350k depending what features you activate. You can't really blame the bloat on it.

Re: Firefox turns 10 years old today (Phoenix v0.1)

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Post by sabret00the »

chris_wot wrote: post #32

It's interesting that 0.3 had the ability to right click on an image to block the server it comes from... I'm assuming this is a preference or an extension nowadays! http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/releases/0.3.html#new

right click on image -> view image info -> [tick] block images from domainname.tld
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