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Post by hshdhdhehd » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 7:44 AM UTC

omcnoe wrote: post #27

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #21

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"Membership" in anything should never be criminalized—that's freedom of association. Animal abuse should be criminalized.

We essentially criminalize membership in other kinds of criminal groups centered around producing and sharing illegal content, the same should apply to animal abuse.

Yeah but do you need to criminalise membership, or does things like conspiracy, accomplace etc. cover it.

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Post by Llamamoe » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 7:44 AM UTC

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #21

omcnoe wrote: post #17

These feeders are part of a stray cat control program in China, aiming to both feed & neuter stray cat populations there. There have been some distasteful incidents of online groups organizing to try and harm/kill specific cats famous through this feeder program. China lacks animal welfare laws to protect these cats, it's not a crime. So people have taken to identifying these abusers and reporting them to their emplo…

"Membership" in anything should never be criminalized—that's freedom of association. Animal abuse should be criminalized.

You have a point but we are literally talking about an association whose entire and only raison d'etre is to perpetuate violent crime. Maybe it shouldn't be outright criminal, since people can potentially register for other reasons than to participate, but it definitely should at least be under scrutiny.

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Post by b-zee » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 7:45 AM UTC

unsnap_biceps wrote: post #10

The "Mr. Cloud & Mr. Peach (Yichen's Place)" feeder has an ant infestation and I just watched them team up to take a few kibble out of the feeder.

Also saw insects at "Mr. Sweetpea, Ducks (Bald Carrot Meow Guardian)" (https://meow.camera/#4300845904274638881)

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Post by hshdhdhehd » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 7:47 AM UTC

awesome_dude wrote: post #29

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Membership" in anything should never be criminalized—that's freedom of association. Animal abuse should be criminalized.

Tell that to the members of organisations deemed to be terrorists

Almost every freedom needs exceptions. Better to have freedom in general plus exceptions than no freedom at all. Free speech except yelling fire in the cinema etc.

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Post by Recursing » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 7:52 AM UTC

I'm not vegan, but I'm always really surprised by the difference in how we see cats and pigs. See e.g. https://theintercept.com/2020/05/29/pigs-factory-farms-venti...

https://www.ted.com/talks/lewis_bollard_how_to_end_factory_f...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_molting

The US also has basically no animal welfare laws for the vast majority of its animals

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Post by throw9394948 » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 7:58 AM UTC

Kichererbsen wrote: post #28

throw9394948 wrote: post #18

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Sometimes cats just get lost: The go on a walk-about and can't find the way home. I have a hunch that's more common than animal abuse. How does your system address that?

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Post by throw9394948 » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 7:59 AM UTC

npteljes wrote: post #24

throw9394948 wrote: post #18

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So to throw me to prison, all one needs to do is break in, and let my cat loose. Also, abandonment is just a minuscule part of human animal abuse.

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Post by throawayonthe » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 8:10 AM UTC

omcnoe wrote: post #17

These feeders are part of a stray cat control program in China, aiming to both feed & neuter stray cat populations there. There have been some distasteful incidents of online groups organizing to try and harm/kill specific cats famous through this feeder program. China lacks animal welfare laws to protect these cats, it's not a crime. So people have taken to identifying these abusers and reporting them to their emplo…

are there places where it's illegal to kill cats? i know there are cruelty laws, but afaik in most places you are allowed to kill animals "humanely"

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Post by berkes » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 8:16 AM UTC

awesome_dude wrote: post #29

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Membership" in anything should never be criminalized—that's freedom of association. Animal abuse should be criminalized.

Tell that to the members of organisations deemed to be terrorists

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Post by timeon » Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 8:18 AM UTC

hshdhdhehd wrote: post #34

awesome_dude wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell that to the members of organisations deemed to be terrorists

Almost every freedom needs exceptions. Better to have freedom in general plus exceptions than no freedom at all. Free speech except yelling fire in the cinema etc.

Ok so add this to these "exceptions".