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Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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post #23

I love that this was US propaganda at one point. The US always has failings, but this message is something we can be proud of.

Except for the endorsement of littering, which fit the time period.

It would be decades before they wheeled out a crying native american on TV to make people feel guilty about the matter(s).

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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I get it and it does make sense. Humans always consider the unfamiliar dangerous by default, but I believe it's deeper and simpler than the arguments you present.

This is not a strictly human trait. Anthropologists are pretty sure we received this trait from our primate ancestors. It evolved out of family groups/tribalism.

Also, a large part of our brains are safety mechanisms. Many features are directed at keeping us alive which is why so many of our what if scenarios are about the worst happening.

In very tribal environments anyone not in your in-group is considered unsafe even if they look exactly like you (i.e. a tribe from 10 km away).

But the thing that has made humans the most successful species on Earth is our ability to override this behavior to cooperate at larger and larger scales.

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

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post #7

This is important for everyone here to watch. A divided house does not stand, and if you haven't noticed, it's getting more divided every day. Don't be a sucker, don't let them divide us. For perspective, we now have masked agents roaming the streets kidnapping people in broad daylight. In the United States. Think about how fast this came. EDIT: Why not have a conversation instead of downvoting. What did I say is wro…

Why not have a conversation instead of downvoting. What did I say is wrong? Your second paragraph is implying that the half of Americans who voted for Trump are "bad Americans". That seems to be sowing the division that your first paragraph warns against (even if it is a reason to dislike Trump). I don't think either democrats or republicans can claim the moral high ground about sowing division.

It seems to me as though you're reading a lot in to that second paragraph. Are you disputing the basic facts outlined, about "masked agents roaming the streets kidnapping people in broad daylight"? Because that is, in fact, a thing that is happening in cities all over the country right now, and simply pointing out that it is happening is not a partisan act.

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

#37
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the people who need to watch this aren't likely on HN or critically thinking about any of this.

The people who need to watch this are precisely the ones on HN, because we have outsized money and power. Keep in mind it was the tech elite that helped elect Trump. Some of them are here and will see this. Lets see how long until this post is flagged...

> Lets see how long until this post is flagged...

I wouldn't be surprised if the video disappears too

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

#38
post #32

Date must be wrong, because it mentions the end of the war and D-Day. Per this date was 1947: https://archive.org/details/DontBeaS1947

It could refer to the production date:

> It was said to have been produced in 1945, and Paramount Pictures allowed showings for the public "without profit" in 1946. 21st century sources describe a 1943 production and 1947 release instead of 1945 and 1946.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Be_a_Sucker

Re: Don't Be a Sucker (1943) [video]

#39
post #34
post #23

I love that this was US propaganda at one point. The US always has failings, but this message is something we can be proud of.

Except for the endorsement of littering, which fit the time period. It would be decades before they wheeled out a crying native american on TV to make people feel guilty about the matter(s).

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