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AI Is Too Big to Fail

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Re: AI Is Too Big to Fail

#31
I still have the hope that the AI bubble will leave as a side effect a massive build-out of energy infrastructure: Nuclear, Solar and Natural Gas.

In my book, prosperity and progress is measured in Terajoules. If you have free, clean and abundant energy, you have industry, jobs, every fucking thing a healthy economy should want or need to have.

And on the other side, I think the Chinese are deluding themselves on robotics.

Re: AI Is Too Big to Fail

#32

IMO, the backdrop to all of this is global warming. We're seeing so many warning signs and growth stagnating that governments need something, ANYTHING, to prop up their debt fueled economies and keep the music playing. In the face of impending GDP/population contraction due to global warming and the upcoming breadbasket collapses, GenAI isn't going to do shit for us. All of the money and effort being spent on it is m…

Yep, but instead of that we're wasting land, energy and resources in data centers that run "you are not the father" memes based on Sora 2.

Re: AI Is Too Big to Fail

#33
post #8

> Think of it like WWII, only only instead of planting victory gardens to beat the Nazis, we're building AI apps and finding ways to create the economic value needed to cover the reckless bets being made by the elites. LOL fuck this, the stock market deserves to burn to the ground.

When did the HackerNews comment section turn into this? Low quality, aggressive, fervently anti-establishment.

I'm anti-establishment because the establishment doesn't care about anyone but themselves. What are we doing all this work for? Progress would be getting universal healthcare for all in this country. Getting better work life balance. Being able to afford a home. Now it's just all the "haves" fighting bitterly to keep getting more and more until they have everything and nothing for anyone else.

Re: AI Is Too Big to Fail

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only problem is that the stock market is tied to a bunch of retirement/pension and other accounts. Yes stock market should burn to the ground but also I think pensioners and retirees shouldn’t be put out, just the finance bros and private equity folks which money is just a plaything.

Pensioners and retirees willingly dumping money into index funds without oversight are the dumb money that enables all of this. So yes, they deserve a haircut.

Deserve is a strong word.

We're talking about regular folks who want to do nothing else but secure their future in the face of a market that regularly tries to screw it up.

Can you explain why you suggest "deserve"?

Re: AI Is Too Big to Fail

#35
post #11

Where does all this leave us? For one, you better hope and pray that AI delivers a magical transformation, because if it doesn't, the whole economy will collapse into brutal serfdom. When I say magic here, I mean it; because of the ~38T national debt bomb, a big boost is not enough. If AI doesn't completely transform our economy, the massive capital misallocation combined with the national debt is going to cause our…

that's been going on for decades, rinse and repeat

Re: AI Is Too Big to Fail

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only problem is that the stock market is tied to a bunch of retirement/pension and other accounts. Yes stock market should burn to the ground but also I think pensioners and retirees shouldn’t be put out, just the finance bros and private equity folks which money is just a plaything.

Pensioners and retirees willingly dumping money into index funds without oversight are the dumb money that enables all of this. So yes, they deserve a haircut.

Or perhaps we shouldn't have killed off the concept of pensions in the United States so we weren't all beholden to godforsaken 401Ks?

Re: AI Is Too Big to Fail

#37
post #8

> Think of it like WWII, only only instead of planting victory gardens to beat the Nazis, we're building AI apps and finding ways to create the economic value needed to cover the reckless bets being made by the elites. LOL fuck this, the stock market deserves to burn to the ground.

When did the HackerNews comment section turn into this? Low quality, aggressive, fervently anti-establishment.

That's one negative quality that Hacker News always had to me, compared to older hacker spaces such as newsgroups and Slashdot: The Petit bourgeois conformism and materialism. People always drunk the Venture Capital pseudo-libertarian cool-aid with too much enthusiasm here.

Being anti-establishment should not be viewed as a sin, unless in extreme cases.

Re: AI Is Too Big to Fail

#38

If it wasn't for AI investments, it's likely the United States would be in a recession right now. So the biggest achievement of this amazing new technology is to artificially prop up Wall Street? For those who can read the tea leaves --- it's absolutely a bubble --- a financial bubble. The real reason why China is ahead in many areas is because their leadership is a little more technologically savvy and progressive t…

If this is a pre-war economy, the US is screwed not because of AI but because we started a stupid trade war that's going to cut us off of our supply of dysprosium which is critical for defense manufacturing.

Wouldn't the US be cut from the supply if there was a war, regardless of the current tariffs?

Re: AI Is Too Big to Fail

#40
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anti-establishment is sort of a requirement for doing a start-up. Aggressiveness is a requirement for doing a start-up in times of constrained capitalism Low quality is driven the by the availability of capital for dumb ideas. So... a while now?

These startups backed by venture funds are anti-establishment? Are you joking?

This is a core tenet of Startupist religious dogma. People really believe it.
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