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Google, Meta and Microsoft to stop showing political ads in the EU

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Re: Google, Meta and Microsoft to stop showing political ads in the EU

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Post by porridgeraisin »

thewebguyd wrote: post #15
simion314 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There could be an index where you list your product/service, so people can find your stuff when they need it. But yeah will be harder to manipulate people to buy your miracle supplement or other garbage that is 99% of the current ads I see. I do not watch Tv, use ad blockers so after years of not watching TV I watched a bit recently and most ads are supplements/"naturists medicine" and for some reasons on youtube wit…

> showing me same ad each day would convince someone to eventually try something they are not interested in * not interested in right now. Showing the same ad to the same person (or cohort of people) works. Eventually, someone in the cohort may be interested in that product/service at some point in their lfie and they are more likely to pick a brand they are familiar with. They are now familiar with that brand after…

Yeah. Don't want that. Of course it works, but so does drugging people. Doesn't mean it needs to be allowed.

When I want it, ill initiate a fresh search and find whatever I find, at that time. Don't want things leeching into my subconscious just because you want it to be your brand that I use later.

Re: Google, Meta and Microsoft to stop showing political ads in the EU

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Post by AlotOfReading »

thewebguyd wrote: post #14
fsflover wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would go even further: banning all ads, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43595269

That'd be great. But how would you define what's advertising and what's not? I've built a relatively successful professional photography side hussle without "advertising" as in, I've never paid for an ad on any of the social platforms or google ads. Most of my business comes from word of mouth, or hits on my website. But, is the SEO I do advertising? What about when I share my work to my socials, is that advertising?…

Also things like Superbowl advertising that some people actually want to see.

But to enumerate some things distinguishing those from more offensive ads:

* You put effort into making that content engaging and interesting for the audience

* The advertising is at least vaguely relevant to the content around it.

* Someone can opt out of seeing your social media posts, or watching an influencer, or watching the Superbowl. People are annoyed when this is violated, e.g. by coordinated campaigns across many influencers.

* These ads aren't as violently intrusive, with massive volume and color changes or full screen popups.

* These ads are (perceived as) more privacy-respecting than say, Google ads.

* These ads don't displace better content like a billboard does.

In short, they're a more respectful transaction that people have control over.

Re: Google, Meta and Microsoft to stop showing political ads in the EU

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Post by paxys »

> “Smaller, newer parties and independent candidates will lose an affordable channel to reach voters, while large, well-followed accounts remain largely unaffected,”

Grassroots campaigns are not banned. Organic social media activity is not banned. Smaller parties will be just fine. This will only negatively impact politicians/parties/corporations who think that spending more money entitles them to a louder voice.

Re: Google, Meta and Microsoft to stop showing political ads in the EU

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Post by Dr_Incelheimer »

parasti wrote: post #18

As a EU citizen, I don't care? People are not swayed by political ads. They're swayed by influencers who push political agendas covertly.

That's because you are a HN user, which selects for above average intelligence people (yes, even the webdevs). You are not the type of person who sways election results. Ads work. You don't need carefully crafted subliminal messages, you could write "vote for me" everywhere and it would have a noticeable effect on the election results

Re: Google, Meta and Microsoft to stop showing political ads in the EU

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Post by paganel »

sublimefire wrote: post #27
paganel wrote: post #20

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How is this bad? I welcome the decision and the outcome. It is beyond crazy what some groups are doing with the misinformation and outright lies on the platforms. Ad companies just want to rake the money with the least effort. They have shown over the years they are not willing to improve the outcomes.

> How is this bad? I welcome the decision and the outcome.

I do not welcome it, as I am on the populists' side.

Decisions like this one are effectively putting our political (non-violent, just to make sure on that) action outside the law, so in effect what do you think the next steps from my side of the isle will be? Acquiescence in practically being silenced out by the current powers that be? I think that that will not be the case.

Re: Google, Meta and Microsoft to stop showing political ads in the EU

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Post by floxy »

cj wrote: post #4
tdb7893 wrote: post #2

Ignoring political implications here and just on a personal level I wish political ads were banned. Quite possibly my least favorite type of ad to see and I've never felt meaningfully informed by them (generally quite the opposite).

> Campaigners say the law will cause a harmful loss of information I find this quote from the article amusing. If EU political ads are anything like USA political ads, the objective of the ad is rarely, if ever, to educate the audience. The objective of most political ads is to confuse, disorient, and distort the narrative.

>distort the narrative

Whatever would we do if we didn't have the corporate/billionaire narrative to guide our lives!

Re: Google, Meta and Microsoft to stop showing political ads in the EU

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Post by seydor »

paxys wrote: post #34

> “Smaller, newer parties and independent candidates will lose an affordable channel to reach voters, while large, well-followed accounts remain largely unaffected,” Grassroots campaigns are not banned. Organic social media activity is not banned. Smaller parties will be just fine. This will only negatively impact politicians/parties/corporations who think that spending more money entitles them to a louder voice.

and how does a sole candidate for mayor begin this 'grassroots campaign'. If you seriously start knocking on people's doors, you re most likely to end up dead or in prison in this day and age

Re: Google, Meta and Microsoft to stop showing political ads in the EU

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Post by ThatMedicIsASpy »

tdb7893 wrote: post #2

Ignoring political implications here and just on a personal level I wish political ads were banned. Quite possibly my least favorite type of ad to see and I've never felt meaningfully informed by them (generally quite the opposite).

The worst form of physical ads in Germany. A slogan or a face and the party name printed on paper and hung up on the streets everywhere. So wasteful.

Re: Google, Meta and Microsoft to stop showing political ads in the EU

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Post by esafak »

dietr1ch wrote: post #10
dangus wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a good way to trap everyone with incumbent corporations. No quitting your corporate job to start your own business, you’re not allowed to advertise.

You are conflating slapping ads in people's faces with making your business listed on the white/yellow/whatever pages and allowing people to find you without being a jerk.

That directory for tech would be like ProductHunt. Do you like it?
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