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EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by bluecalm »

mrtksn wrote: post #25
odyssey7 wrote: post #12

This move will expand the public's belief that regulation means "a ridiculous incursion of rights," leading to greater belief that society is better off without regulation.

It depends, its a war between the right to know what you are eating without studying it thoroughly first and the right to claim things as something that they are not. In Europe people tend to be the first kind and see the government as tool for protecting them from the second kind. The revolution is unlikely.

Do you think "veggie burger" suggests it is something that it is not?

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by tcfhgj »

bradley13 wrote: post #5

Some food labelling is misleading. One example I have seen ist (small) "veggie" (big) "CRISPY CHICKEN". But burger? Sure, burgers are often beef, but there have always been other kinds. "Chicken burger", "crab burger", so why not "veggie burger". The EU likes making regulations, to the point that they are killing their own industry

> so why not "veggie burger".

1. even this will be illegal

2. why not: there are countless of vegetarian Burger types, one of them is one in the style of crispy chicken burgers - without meat

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by KempyKolibri »

tyleo wrote: post #27
FranzFerdiNaN wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So its the right move because you dont like the taste of something?

It’s more about it being fake when they are delicious by themselves. Vegetables don’t need improvement, they are already respectable. I think the idea just bothers me, “vegetables aren’t good enough, what you really want is fake meat.”

Two different things. If you don’t want to eat animal products for ethical reasons but you want something high protein and/or similar in taste/texture to a beef burger, eating a vegetable stir fry isn’t going to cut it. That’s what these products are for.

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by thenthenthen »

FranzFerdiNaN wrote: post #18
ReptileMan wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hamburger is somewhat traditional food. So it makes sense to be regulated as such - to not be able to name any crap hamburger, but only specific crap hamburger. One that is beef patty inside a bun. Having a animal derived patty by grinding is essential part of some item being called hamburger.

When i buy a hamburger in the supermarket i dont get a bun. So clearly the thing i buy shouldnt be called a hamburger.

Also, its made from beef, why is it called HAMburger?! /s

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by odyssey7 »

tyleo wrote: post #30
odyssey7 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of modern vegetarianism in the West has involved reinventing familiar entrees to make them vegetarian. A lot of those efforts really have been disappointing. I'd encourage new vegetarians to try embracing vegetarian staples from places like India, where culinary traditions have a lengthy proven history of supporting healthy and satisfying vegetarianism. But I'd also say, some veggie burgers really are great. The…

That’s interesting. Which ones have you tried? I go to a vegan BBQ regularly but have found the burger options lackluster and visually unsettling vs just getting grilled veggies. I’d try more if you have recommendations. I think I hit all the major players though. Edit: I noticed you were downvoted and just want to advocate for you. I don’t know why people have such reactions to reasonable discussions :/ If you’re re…

I usually prefer the ones made primarily from beans. The ones I prefer are usually made by the restaurants themselves.

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by notpushkin »

GoToRO wrote: post #10
bradley13 wrote: post #5

Some food labelling is misleading. One example I have seen ist (small) "veggie" (big) "CRISPY CHICKEN". But burger? Sure, burgers are often beef, but there have always been other kinds. "Chicken burger", "crab burger", so why not "veggie burger". The EU likes making regulations, to the point that they are killing their own industry

The problem is that on the packaging Burger will be written with huge letters and then vegan is metioned somewhere in a corner. I bought cheese that was not cheese :)) Imagine my disappointment.

So maybe we should tackle the root cause somehow instead?

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by intended »

odyssey7 wrote: post #12

This move will expand the public's belief that regulation means "a ridiculous incursion of rights," leading to greater belief that society is better off without regulation.

The article suggests that the voting public, at least the agriculture involved bits, were interested in having this passed.

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by mrtksn »

bluecalm wrote: post #31
mrtksn wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends, its a war between the right to know what you are eating without studying it thoroughly first and the right to claim things as something that they are not. In Europe people tend to be the first kind and see the government as tool for protecting them from the second kind. The revolution is unlikely.

Do you think "veggie burger" suggests it is something that it is not?

Veggie burger is the flashy headline that makes you click stuff. What actually is happening is that they are creating a framework for stricter definitions(for many things, like sausages) that will be adopted by 27 countries in 24 different languages.

The "veggie burger" can be in the text of Malta or Ireland but who knows. They are talking about protecting some words. There are so many languages in EU, everyone calls these things differently. There's something similar against calling things not made from dairy milk or yogurt.

Vegans are infuriated apparently, maybe they can join forces with the libertarians and topple the EU so they can fight among themselves in peace.

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