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Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Been saying it for YEARS: 95% of VPNs sell your data. It's where they make their money. It's absolutely insane the push-back I get when I say this online. I get downvoted to hell and back. Source: I bought this data from VPN companies... Hell, you can inject ads and surveys if you want!

How does that work with HTTPS being practically ubiquitous?

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

#32

Is there any other real world usecases for VPN nowadays other than: 1. Getting access to geolocked data 2. Torrenting "Linux ISOs" ?

I VPN into my home network for added privacy in public wifis, and to access private services.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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post #31
post #6

Been saying it for YEARS: 95% of VPNs sell your data. It's where they make their money. It's absolutely insane the push-back I get when I say this online. I get downvoted to hell and back. Source: I bought this data from VPN companies... Hell, you can inject ads and surveys if you want!

How does that work with HTTPS being practically ubiquitous?

HTTPS spills what services you are communicating with, but not the content…

…except approximate content sizes and timing patterns.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Are we allowed to discuss (edit: if it's not too political?) if Kape Technologies has any connections to Israeli security services, given the nature of VPNs and given the amount of data that can be trivially collected, and: "Being from Israel, Teddy Sagi had connections with the Israeli military intelligence sphere and was able to procure himself a real-life cyber spy [his co-founder] from the famed Unit 8200 (kinda…

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Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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post #31
post #6

Been saying it for YEARS: 95% of VPNs sell your data. It's where they make their money. It's absolutely insane the push-back I get when I say this online. I get downvoted to hell and back. Source: I bought this data from VPN companies... Hell, you can inject ads and surveys if you want!

How does that work with HTTPS being practically ubiquitous?

They sell metadata. DNS queries, locations, apps using data, device info. Usually anonymized, but both unscrupulous and "better" providers do have access to your account and payment info.

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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post #34
post #19

Are we allowed to discuss (edit: if it's not too political?) if Kape Technologies has any connections to Israeli security services, given the nature of VPNs and given the amount of data that can be trivially collected, and: "Being from Israel, Teddy Sagi had connections with the Israeli military intelligence sphere and was able to procure himself a real-life cyber spy [his co-founder] from the famed Unit 8200 (kinda…

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I specifically put the OP in the second-chance pool (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308), which is why it got re-upped (https://hnrankings.info/45469376/). Rather an odd way to suppress discussion, no?

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did until they killed port forwarding.

Yep. And I was on Proton for 3y, until the CEO were backing Trump and Vance on Reddit and other places. Their port forwarding was also painful as well, but it worked. Cancelled. PIA does the port forwarding nicely and stabily. No jank scripts to run every 60 seconds. Now evidently PIA is a bunch of scum capitalists. But in reality, who isn't? Mullvad? But they killed port forwarding for "abuse".

> the CEO were backing Trump and Vance on Reddit and other places

Something happened, but THAT didn't.

https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-tr...

Re: Who owns Express VPN, Nord, Surfshark? VPN relationships explained (2024)

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This link displays just the map, freed from it's painfully small frame. https://kumu.io/embed/9ced55e897e74fd807be51990b26b415#vpn-c...

Anyone got this as a regular single image infographic or (better yet) a text-only bulleted outline?
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