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Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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> Authorities said the suspect, Joshua Jahn, searched his phone for tracking apps, including ICEBlock, before opening fire on the facility from a rooftop. Thats weird because you dont need iceblock to know that ICE is at an ICE facility Its for when they’re spotted in neighborhoods dumb rationale, dumb response

Jahn wasn't a big thinker. He used an iron-sighted old surplus rifle to shoot at vans that were filled with detainees rather than employees.

Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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The DOJ would just have the website host, the ISP, or the domain registrar revoke and terminate everything

In practice this seems much more difficult to do than going after the app in the app store, particularly if you choose your registrar and hosting provider carefully.

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Not to refute your point, but a trivial enough thing to create as a web site. I'm guessing that will come next (if one doesn't already exist).

I guess the developers will need to learn HTML+CSS and self host this app on a Russian server. Will be good to showcase the freedom of the web! I am going to use this news to hit every lemming in the face - those who claim corpo-controlled walled gardens are good for you and grandma.

I’m not sure who you’re expecting to convert. Most people- thinking of people like my parents- think any app that hinders police must be a bad thing.

The idea that something like ICEBlock is benevolent and doesn’t make the user a criminal by association just doesn’t register.

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FWIW, everyone who claims that Apple fundamentally needs the centralized ability to control apps on their platforms "for everyone's safety" -- despite how that obviously and repeatedly makes them become patsies for governments all over the world to enforce their censorship regimes -- are complicit in this stuff (in addition, of course, to the people who build it at Apple...).

When’s your next court date against Apple? Let’s hope the California government can stand against this type of federal overreach.

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FWIW, everyone who claims that Apple fundamentally needs the centralized ability to control apps on their platforms "for everyone's safety" -- despite how that obviously and repeatedly makes them become patsies for governments all over the world to enforce their censorship regimes -- are complicit in this stuff (in addition, of course, to the people who build it at Apple...).

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Re: Apple takes down ICE tracking apps after pressure from DOJ

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This is the problem with the modern "app" way of doing things. This sort of thing would be best handled as a website so that users need not run specific software on thier phones. Reports can come in as basic emails parsed for a lat/long or grid. Then a kml file can be pushed as needed to a basic web-facing map. The bandwidth would be minimal and very resistant to shutdown. Heck, share the kml files via torrents or pu…

The DOJ would just have the website host, the ISP, or the domain registrar revoke and terminate everything

Ya, the pirate bay is still online, so too innumerable similar sites once targeted by various agencies. A smallish map running on a RP plugged into tor would be very resiliant. But there is a bittorent protocol that allows for rolling updates to a torrent. That would be the best way to distribute kml files imho.

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It’s a shame too, because Apple has the money and brand wherewithal to fight the government. See the FBI vs Apple stuff that happened years ago. That actually won them some real converts. Capitulating over this is Apple showing their supposed core values have significantly hollowed

Isn’t Apple mostly interested in making more money, though, instead of spending money? The way I see it of all the top tech giants, Apple has the most to lose with all the tariff shenanigans, so it’s in their [shareholders] interest to stay friends with the current administration. Apple has never had moral values other than earning money by making great products. And I say this as someone who is deeply embedded in th…

I am an Apple shareholder.

My Apple shareholder interest is for Apple to preserve its reputation in the long term, including when Trump is long gone.

Please stop repeating this "shareholders only care about short-term money" idea.

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