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JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

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Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

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Post by GiorgioG »

369548684892826 wrote: post #25
ilya_petrov wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's not. This change doesn't affect any of paying customers. Non-commercial is a special type of license provided for free for non-commercial projects (education, hobby programming, etc.), for a limited set of JetBrains products.

That's what he said, you aren't applying this change to your paying customers because you know what a shitty decision it is and only free users will put up with it.

free users get the same value as paying customers...JetBrains can do as they please to get some value out of these users. Don't like it, pay up...I'm a long time JetBrains customer (since 2005). I've never asked my employer to pay for my licenses because their tools make me a better developer than any other options on the market.

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

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Post by TavsiE9s »

ilya_petrov wrote: post #23

JetBrains here. For clarity, non-commercial doesn't just simply mean individuals. It's a special type of free license for non-commercial use: education, hobbies, etc. We are communicating this change via a blog post, emails to users, and in-product. With the 25.2.4 update (in two weeks, October 14), non-commercial users will receive a notification about this change and will be able to review new agreement and take ac…

> We are writing to let you know that the data sharing settings for our non-commercial tier will change the next time you update your JetBrains IDE. If you don’t want the settings to be applied, please read further for how to opt out.

You knew full well from the beginning that this would not be popular, otherwise it would be opt-in, and not opt-out. Great way to ruin your company's reputation.

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

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Post by ljm »

estimator7292 wrote: post #15

JetBrains is going to run themselves out of business. It's like they forgot that all their money comes from the people who have been paying them for years for software that is vital to their work and livelihood. It seems they're intentionally dumping all their old customers to focus the full might of their organization.... chasing fads. They spent millions of dollars reworking their IDEs to look like a cheap VSCode k…

It's more the case in tech now that the investor is the first customer, not the actual customer.

This is the only way I can make sense of this no-expense-spared approach to adopt AI, regardless of its utility in the product.

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

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Post by joshstrange »

TavsiE9s wrote: post #32
ilya_petrov wrote: post #23

JetBrains here. For clarity, non-commercial doesn't just simply mean individuals. It's a special type of free license for non-commercial use: education, hobbies, etc. We are communicating this change via a blog post, emails to users, and in-product. With the 25.2.4 update (in two weeks, October 14), non-commercial users will receive a notification about this change and will be able to review new agreement and take ac…

> We are writing to let you know that the data sharing settings for our non-commercial tier will change the next time you update your JetBrains IDE. If you don’t want the settings to be applied, please read further for how to opt out. You knew full well from the beginning that this would not be popular, otherwise it would be opt-in, and not opt-out. Great way to ruin your company's reputation.

It’s only opt-out for people who aren’t paying, I think that’s fair. If you have a subscription then it’s opt-in.

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

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Post by joshstrange »

Rooster61 wrote: post #7

Having the option to opt out is quite useless if it starts harvesting your code the second it enables itself. I've come to expect better of Jetbrains. This is pretty shitty. EDIT: Just noticed they are deleting some negative comments from that page. Definitely shitty.

They’ve said elsewhere in this thread that for people that it’s opt-out for they will get promoted on app launch and have the option to opt-out _before_ any data collection. That seems fair to me.

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

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Post by ranger207 »

Ianvdl wrote: post #2

It is opt-in by default for non-commercial licenses: > For companies: Admins can enable data sharing at a company-wide level. To support early adopters, we’re offering a limited number of free All Products Pack subscriptions to organizations willing to participate while we explore this program. For companies that are not willing to opt in to the program, nothing changes, and as always, admins are in control. > For in…

"Opt-in by default" is a contradiction. Do I have to actively do something to turn it on, in which case it's opt-in; or is it on by default, in which case it's not opt-in?

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

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Post by hprotagonist »

estimator7292 wrote: post #15

JetBrains is going to run themselves out of business. It's like they forgot that all their money comes from the people who have been paying them for years for software that is vital to their work and livelihood. It seems they're intentionally dumping all their old customers to focus the full might of their organization.... chasing fads. They spent millions of dollars reworking their IDEs to look like a cheap VSCode k…

> If they'd just kept on quietly making the best IDEs available while everyone else in the industry has lost their damn minds, they'd be golden.

I recently heard this referred to as "the Brother Strategy": where you don't do anything, but become market leader because everyone else has been actively working on making their offering _worse_.

Re: JetBrains will start training AI on your code on non-commercial license

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Post by lioeters »

Ianvdl wrote: post #2

It is opt-in by default for non-commercial licenses: > For companies: Admins can enable data sharing at a company-wide level. To support early adopters, we’re offering a limited number of free All Products Pack subscriptions to organizations willing to participate while we explore this program. For companies that are not willing to opt in to the program, nothing changes, and as always, admins are in control. > For in…

> opt-in by default

That's called opt-out.

> Data sharing is enabled by default, but you can turn it off anytime

I wonder if this is legal in the EU?

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