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Re: Cursor 1.7

#31

Post by WesleyJohnson »

mohsen1 wrote: post #3

Cursor was good for a little while until VSCode opened up the APIs for AI editing. Now Copilot is really good and other extensions (specifically Kilo Code) are doing things so much better! I am seeing a lot of folks talking about maintaining a good "Agent Loop" for doing larger tasks. It seems like Kilo Code has figured it out completely for me. Using the Orchestrator mode I'm able to accomplish really big and comple…

I feel like I've hit a sweet spot for my use case, but am so behind the times. I've been a developer for 20 years and I'm not interested in vibe coding or letting an agent run wild on my full code base.

Instead, I'll ask Cursor to refactor code that I know is inefficient. Abstract repetitive code into functions or includes. Recommend (but not make) changes to larger code blocks or modules to make them better. Occasionally, I'll have it author new functionality.

What I find is, Cursor's autocomplete pairs really with with the agent's context. So, even if I only ask it for suggestions and tell it to not make the change, when I start implementing those changes myself (either some or all), the shared context kicks in and autocomplete starts providing suggestions in the direction of the recommendation.

However, at any time I can change course and Cursor picks up very quickly on my new direction and the autocomplete shifts with me.

It's so powerful when I'm leading it to where I know I want to go, but having enormous amounts of training data at the ready to guide me in best-practices or common patterns.

I don't run any .md files though. I wonder what I'm missing out on.

Re: Cursor 1.7

#32

Post by enraged_camel »

aeon_ai wrote: post #29
enraged_camel wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> What's with the negativity here The builders are quietly learning the tools, adopting new practices and building stuff. Everyone else is busy criticizing the tech for its shortcomings and imperfections.

Look, I use AI regularly. I value AI. It's not a criticism of AI, broadly, it's commentary on a feature designed to make engineers (and increasingly non-engineers) even lazier about one of the main points of leverage in making AI useful.

Autocomplete is one of Cursor's most popular features, and is cited as the only reason some people continue to use it. And you're mocking the Cursor team for adding it to the one place where devs still type a lot of text, and making a value judgment by calling it lazy.

Re: Cursor 1.7

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Post by axwdev »

I use Cursor because I found their autocomplete to be the best option at the time. That seemed to be the consensus at one point too from bits of research I did.

Do people think there are better autocomplete options available now? Is it a case of just using a particular model for autocomplete in whatever IDE you want to use?

Re: Cursor 1.7

#35

Post by enraged_camel »

hansonkd wrote: post #28

I wish cursor would let you see how much usage in terms of $$ you have done for your month. Its really hard to see in the dashboard the individual charges tokens, but then there is no cumulative. I haven't been able to find a way to see how much of my included usage is being used besides downloading the csv and manually summing. They just give you a very unhelpful "You will use your included credits by X date" I supp…

You mean this page? https://cursor.com/dashboard?tab=usage

Re: Cursor 1.7

#36

Post by skydhash »

WesleyJohnson wrote: post #31
mohsen1 wrote: post #3

Cursor was good for a little while until VSCode opened up the APIs for AI editing. Now Copilot is really good and other extensions (specifically Kilo Code) are doing things so much better! I am seeing a lot of folks talking about maintaining a good "Agent Loop" for doing larger tasks. It seems like Kilo Code has figured it out completely for me. Using the Orchestrator mode I'm able to accomplish really big and comple…

I feel like I've hit a sweet spot for my use case, but am so behind the times. I've been a developer for 20 years and I'm not interested in vibe coding or letting an agent run wild on my full code base. Instead, I'll ask Cursor to refactor code that I know is inefficient. Abstract repetitive code into functions or includes. Recommend (but not make) changes to larger code blocks or modules to make them better. Occasio…

Abstraction for abstraction sake is usually bad. What you should aim for is aligning it to the domain so that feature change requests are proportional to the work that needs to be done. Small changes, small PRs.

Re: Cursor 1.7

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Post by vasco »

aeon_ai wrote: post #22
siva7 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You write like that's a bad thing. What's with the negativity here..

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It's funny to imagine this AI based autocomplete prompting when the interface isn't a keyboard but a brain chip. Effectively mind control.

Re: Cursor 1.7

#38

Post by causal »

I got into Cursor a little late, went really heavy on it, and see myself using it less and less as I go back to VSCode.

1) The most useful thing about Cursor was always state management of agent edits: Being able roll back to previous states after some edits with the click of a button, or reapply changes, and preview edits, etc. But weirdly, it seems like they never recognized this differentiator, and indeed it remains a bit buggy, and some crucial things (like mass-reapply after a rollback) never got implemented.

2) Adding autocomplete to the prompt box gives me suspicion they somehow still do not understand best practices in using AI to write code. It is more crucial than ever to be clear in your mind what you want to do in a codebase, so that you can recognize when AI is deviating from that path. Giving the LLM more and earlier opportunities to create deviation is a terrible idea.

3) Claude Code was fine in CLI and has a nearly-identical extension pane now too. For the same price, I seem to get just as much usage, in addition to a Claude subscription.

I think Cursor will lose because models were never their advantage and they do not seem to really be thought leaders on LLM-driven software development.

Re: Cursor 1.7

#39

Post by hansonkd »

enraged_camel wrote: post #35
hansonkd wrote: post #28

I wish cursor would let you see how much usage in terms of $$ you have done for your month. Its really hard to see in the dashboard the individual charges tokens, but then there is no cumulative. I haven't been able to find a way to see how much of my included usage is being used besides downloading the csv and manually summing. They just give you a very unhelpful "You will use your included credits by X date" I supp…

You mean this page? https://cursor.com/dashboard?tab=usage

It doesn't show cumulative does it? For me it just shows my plan name and itemized token usage but no "You used x out of y of your included credits"

Re: Cursor 1.7

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Post by sersi »

I really don't understand Cursor's 30 billion dollars valuation (half of Antropic). I use it, it's not a bad tool by any means but it's so buggy from version to version. Latest bug I had, it completely stopped keeping my zsh state in the terminal, I had to downgrade. And honestly, I'm not that sure what secret sauce is worth 30 billion dollars? The agent loop? Others can do that? The autocomplete?
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