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Re: Amazon Vega OS and Vega Developer Tools

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"Google TV Streamer" is Googles official one, it's very streaming focused, any Android TV device of a reputable brand is good. NVIDIA Shields being the best. I can recommend the app "Stremio" which has an extensive add-on ecosystem you can explore, works on Android, Android TV, Linux, MacOS and Windows!

It's the current official one, until it's killed and bricked for the next official one.

There is nothing wrong with the older devices either, they've kept compatibility as far as the hardware is concerned.

Ragebait belongs elsewhere, thanks.

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> people will stop buying them as they're close to useless as people have Smart TVs for the legal stuff I don't know if by "people" you mean specifically the people who use them for illegal streams, but there are others of us who buy them. I have a perfectly good high-end LG OLED TV that's now ~7-8 years old, and I wanted something with better performance (and newer WiFi standards) for streaming apps in 4K, I've used…

If you go into any pub in the UK and say fire stick, people assume it's not legit content you're using one for. They're infamous for allowing people to watch football (soccer!) games illegally on Saturday at 3pm when the TV blackout is on, as people outside the country can watch the games.

I've certainly heard of the dodgy usage of fire stick for streams but I've never been into football, what's this blackout all about?

Re: Amazon Vega OS and Vega Developer Tools

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It's the current official one, until it's killed and bricked for the next official one.

There is nothing wrong with the older devices either, they've kept compatibility as far as the hardware is concerned. Ragebait belongs elsewhere, thanks.

My Chromecast and Google TV [1] beg to differ. The latter was unceremoniously bricked after a couple of years.

[1]https://www.cnet.com/reviews/logitech-revue-google-tv-review...

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There is nothing wrong with the older devices either, they've kept compatibility as far as the hardware is concerned. Ragebait belongs elsewhere, thanks.

My Chromecast and Google TV [1] beg to differ. The latter was unceremoniously bricked after a couple of years. [1] https://www.cnet.com/reviews/logitech-revue-google-tv-review...

That's a Logitech device with Google software, Googles own devices have superb support. Logitech didn't pay Google for support I guess.

Re: Amazon Vega OS and Vega Developer Tools

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If you go into any pub in the UK and say fire stick, people assume it's not legit content you're using one for. They're infamous for allowing people to watch football (soccer!) games illegally on Saturday at 3pm when the TV blackout is on, as people outside the country can watch the games.

I've certainly heard of the dodgy usage of fire stick for streams but I've never been into football, what's this blackout all about?

The idea is that between around 3pm and 6pm every Saturday, outwith international breaks when international teams play (e.g. World Cup), no TV station in the UK is allowed to air live football. 3pm is the main kick off time.

The idea is that this encourages people to go to their local football team instead of watching the game on TV.

For a small island, there are massive amount of football teams. If you're American you're probably only familiar with the 'Premier League' with teams like Manchester United/City, Arsenal, Chelsea etc. and maybe the Scottish Premier League with Celtic and Rangers, and maybe Championship thanks to 'Welcome to Wrexham' but there are leagues and leagues below, it goes very deep until you get to teams literally just playing on a bit of grass behind a church in a small village and the local gym teacher being the referee.

The blackout is supposed to mean you go to whatever team is nearest or easiest to get to for you, going to big team Premier League games is very expensive if not impossible unless you have silly money to spend or wait years (I mean like 10+ years for a season ticket).

But it doesn't really work for a lot of people. If you moved away for university etc. you might still want to watch your team but the only local team is your team's rival. Or you would end up watching the village football team game.

Most games are aired abroad for expats and foreign fans, but UK residents are unable to watch those legally, hence the growth in fire sticks.

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I find Amazon’s software for streaming much slower and buggier than other providers. The streams too also seem to have more issues.

What's better? I'm not in the Apple ecosystem. My key criteria would be UX and video quality. Thanks

> What's better?

I've semi-recently gone down the TV platforms rabbit hole again, and my overall impression is that they're all horrible.

I ended up grabbing a 6-year-old mini PC I had lying around in the basement and a >10-year-old TV that my father-in-law was going to throw away, as well as a Logitech y-10 air mouse [1] that I am lucky enough to have bought way back in the day.

I put desktop Linux on the PC with KDE plasma (avoiding Kodi, which, somehow, consistently attracts me but then annoys and frustrates me whenever I actually use it) and Brave.

I cranked up the scaling factor in KDE, and made a tiny tweak so KDE won't ask for superuser passwords and passwords on wallet access.

The browser is the only app I ever use on that thing, although it also has a DVD drive and VLC, and I copied my film collection onto the local disk of that thing.

I logged into all the media platforms I pay for (and the free ones I frequently use) and made an HTML file that links to all of them, using a huge font size, and setting it as home in the browser.

It cost me $0 (considering all the recycling), and it's a better experience than anything that money will buy.

I actually like TVs as a hardware concept, and am a happy paying customer of several VOD platforms, so I would seem to be the perfect customer for all these sticks and mini boxes and smart TV thingamajigs. But the UX is just so horrible. Everything about them screams, “We hate our customers”.

Last time I tried, I found that the VOD platforms I care about have their respective best implementations in their Desktop/Web-versions. Android Apps were not always available, and to the extent that they were, half of them were on Amazon/Fire, half of them on Android TV/Google Play. I remember, in one case (Masterclass), they used the Android App to upsell me on their "Premium" subscription (or maybe it was the download-feature on the Android App).

So I would have had to pay more, switch between multiple HDMI sources to switch to the platform with the app I wanted to consume, and would still have had to use my desktop PC for some of the content I was paying for.

And then, I could never get the apps I actually cared about to occupy most of the screen real estate (or at least be suitably prominently placed). Most of the real estate was dedicated to dark patterns trying to get me to pay for stuff I didn't want to pay for, even though I was already a happy paying customer for more than enough stuff and there wasn't a “give it a rest, already” setting anywhere to be found.

I think that anyone who is technically sufficiently well-versed, is going to avoid that hellscape like the plague. So then, who is the actual audience for this stuff? My guess would be: the old folks' home around the corner, which, sooner or later, will be forced to upgrade those TVs to smart-TVs. And once those old folks put in their credit card numbers or log in with their Amazon accounts, there goes a lot of people's inheritance.

My own elderly father is wise to the scam, but not confident in his ability to navigate the dark patterns. So now, he is afraid to input his credit card information into anything digital, essentially excluding him from cultural participation in the digital age.

It's just such a sad and sorry state of affairs. How did we get here?

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_W1dqRuljI

Re: Amazon Vega OS and Vega Developer Tools

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I've certainly heard of the dodgy usage of fire stick for streams but I've never been into football, what's this blackout all about?

The idea is that between around 3pm and 6pm every Saturday, outwith international breaks when international teams play (e.g. World Cup), no TV station in the UK is allowed to air live football. 3pm is the main kick off time. The idea is that this encourages people to go to their local football team instead of watching the game on TV. For a small island, there are massive amount of football teams. If you're American y…

Thanks for the explanation.

I'm British, but having never been into football (or any sport really) I wasn't aware of this TV blackout; given what I do know of people who don't necessarily support the local team, this sounds like madness, also how does this work for away games? I know loads of people who live/work in London now who still support their home town team.

So, to make sure I understand this correctly; if I wanted to watch a particular team, say my local one, without going to the game, there is no actual legit way to watch that match from home?

Re: Amazon Vega OS and Vega Developer Tools

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's better? I'm not in the Apple ecosystem. My key criteria would be UX and video quality. Thanks

"Google TV Streamer" is Googles official one, it's very streaming focused, any Android TV device of a reputable brand is good. NVIDIA Shields being the best. I can recommend the app "Stremio" which has an extensive add-on ecosystem you can explore, works on Android, Android TV, Linux, MacOS and Windows!

Stremio is pretty good. It has a great plugin ecosystem. I'm not going to say more than that.
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