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Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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This will be Boeings answer to the Bombardier C Series, aka the Airbus A220 series. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A220 , which is one of the nicest planes for short haul in service at the moment.

Edit: indeed, not the 'Neo', I got the name wrong but the link right.

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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Looking forward to what AI-generated flight control software can do!

You’re absolutely right! The engines do not appear to be working. What I actually meant to do is, of course, turn the engines on. As you can see, they should now be working correctly. Sorry about that, thanks for correcting me!

We are about to crash, did you really turn them on? I still have no control of the plane

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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Looking forward to what AI-generated flight control software can do!

Prompt: "Do a barrel roll!"

The 367-80 did it fine [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_367-80#Barrel_roll

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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You’re absolutely right! The engines do not appear to be working. What I actually meant to do is, of course, turn the engines on. As you can see, they should now be working correctly. Sorry about that, thanks for correcting me!

We are about to crash, did you really turn them on? I still have no control of the plane

You’re absolutely right! The engines do not appear to be working. What I actually meant to do is, of course, turn the engines on. As you can see, they should now be working correctly. Sorry about that, thanks for correcting me!

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

#35

This will be Boeings answer to the Bombardier C Series, aka the Airbus A220 series. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A220 , which is one of the nicest planes for short haul in service at the moment. Edit: indeed, not the 'Neo', I got the name wrong but the link right.

The A220 is an absolute treat. Can't put exactly my finger on why, but it just feels right in size, noise, the little screens at the top.

Flown it once or twice with AirBaltic, and would love to take it again.

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

#36

This will be Boeings answer to the Bombardier C Series, aka the Airbus A220 series. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A220 , which is one of the nicest planes for short haul in service at the moment. Edit: indeed, not the 'Neo', I got the name wrong but the link right.

The "Neo series" are re-engined A320 series (neo = New Engine Option) and has nothing to do with the A220.

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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They already did that, it’s called the 757 and nobody bought it. Maybe we’ll get a 757 MAX with MCAS to make it type compatible with the 737.

AFAIK the 757 frame is too heavy to be powered by the LEAP engines. Those planes were powered by a class of engine between the old 737 and 777 engines, and nobody makes them anymore because they're not in demand, so a 757 MAX is just not financially viable.

The article said Boeing is talking to Rolls Royce for the new plane. American Airlines used to have a fleet of 757s powered by Rolls Royce engines assembled in Montreal Canada. I used to work on those engines many many years ago.

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

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They already did that, it’s called the 757 and nobody bought it. Maybe we’ll get a 757 MAX with MCAS to make it type compatible with the 737.

AFAIK the 757 frame is too heavy to be powered by the LEAP engines. Those planes were powered by a class of engine between the old 737 and 777 engines, and nobody makes them anymore because they're not in demand, so a 757 MAX is just not financially viable.

You can use the most powerful LEAP engine on a lightened 757 “neo”, it’ll just be a complete dog like the A321 and not a rocket ship like the old one.

Re: Boeing has started working on a 737 MAX replacement

#40
I hope they design and build the airframe properly this time. A plane that needs [cheaply outsourced] software (that relies on one sensor) to correct bad behavior at the flight envelope is just not acceptable.

I still refuse to fly on the 737 MAX. I know it’s probably fine given what pilots now know about the how to control the thing, but I just refuse to support Boeing’s malicious negligence or any carrier that enables it.

There are few companies on earth I’m as mad at as Boeing. As I see it, they are not done repenting for their crimes.

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