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I can agree with the original intent of the second amendment. But deliberately ignoring the most critical point of it is just insane: "well-regulated militia". People who are trained, share common values and understand the gravity of firing a weapon is kind of important. I don't think the founding fathers would see "You were born in America and are old enough? here ya go!" as what they intended.
As a non-american, I've never really understood appeals to the beliefs of the founding fathers tbh.
It should really be irrelevant what a bunch of long dead people think. It's your country, the corpses of the founding fathers don't have to live in it, so their interpretation of your legal doctrines (even if written by them) hardly seem relevant.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can agree with the original intent of the second amendment. But deliberately ignoring the most critical point of it is just insane: "well-regulated militia". People who are trained, share common values and understand the gravity of firing a weapon is kind of important. I don't think the founding fathers would see "You were born in America and are old enough? here ya go!" as what they intended.
As a non-american, I've never really understood appeals to the beliefs of the founding fathers tbh. It should really be irrelevant what a bunch of long dead people think. It's your country, the corpses of the founding fathers don't have to live in it, so their interpretation of your legal doctrines (even if written by them) hardly seem relevant.
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#35I often wonder what the internet would look like if we just banned paid advertising. Facebook, instagram, X, TikTok, they’d all have to start charging users to stay alive and I don’t think anyone would choose to pay for the brainrot. I’d like to see us remove the incentives these companies have for just gluing us to our phones.
Social media is probably somewhat responsible, but I don't think it's the biggest problem here. It's the fact that Gen Z is checking out on life, for many people there is no hope of owning a house even if you give up all luxury spending and grind, it's impossible for many on a typical job.
It's also getting increasingly more expensive to hang out with friends in physical spaces. Every business needs to pay increasingly high rents, and charge increasing amounts. You could go out to the bar and spend $100, or you could stay at home and play video games for free.
We are living in an era where the old and rich have taken over and continue to extract every last drop of wealth from the people who have the least.
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> If you've been told your whole life that you're inherently evil for your gender
I'm sorry, I'm nowhere near an expert on gender theory but even I know this is BS: nobody is telling young men they're "evil for their gender."
What they are told is the fact that they live in a patriarchy. Nobody is held personally responsible for being born into the patriarchy, and the patriarchy is just as toxic to young men as it is to women. The main people who get held responsible are the ones who enthusiastically perpetuate the system and plug their ears when they hear evidence that it might not be super great for everyone.
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#38I often wonder what the internet would look like if we just banned paid advertising. Facebook, instagram, X, TikTok, they’d all have to start charging users to stay alive and I don’t think anyone would choose to pay for the brainrot. I’d like to see us remove the incentives these companies have for just gluing us to our phones.
For those of us online in the 90s we don’t have to wonder It was literally a utopia before business came along. Every site was built from passion, with no expectation of getting anything in return. It was a global community centered around sharing knowledge. I’d go one step further and ban the consolidation of platforms by billionaires. The open internet no longer exists or will ever exist again
> Every site was built from passion, with no expectation of getting anything in return. It was a global community centered around sharing knowledge.
It's a bit of false nostalgia but also it was the era of early adopters. Their concentrations in new spaces always make them better because their motivations are perpetually directed outward from where we are as a civilization. They frequently have to move on as the space they create for themselves becomes drowned out. HN has attempted to remain relatively secluded, and that has been effective up to a point.
The real dilemma there is that the early adopters who make things good need isolation while the "go with the flow" crowd needs a way to support early adopters without themselves getting in the way. Just from a basic computer science perspective, the early adopters need ways to create efficient back-pressure on later adopters so that early adopters can exist without permanently being chased and drowned out by later adopters.
The internet created something analogous to a 2D plain-world where nothing was out of reach for anyone. Without creating some 3D structure, some stratification so that people who get out of the plain can more directly communicate at longer distance, the noise is so inefficient that only those who don't value their time or those who profit off of the poor connectivity will participate.
Baking fresh cinnamon toast comes to mind. Some will accuse me of becoming distracted, but it used to be more common to speak on every open-access forum as if talking to another person in the room. We still do on different formats like IRC or less serious threads of less serious places, but it is diminished as internet culture emerged. Internet culture sometimes expects you to treat every conversation as a conversation with a forum full of angry combatants. A little bit of structure would re-humanize that culture by putting us back into our more human-sized enclaves where there is no need to gatekeep and no audience to perform to.
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> If you've been told your whole life that you're inherently evil for your gender, told you're inherently evil due to your race, cannot earn enough for a dignified life supporting a family, see no path to owning your own home, have watched as your country has been flooded with millions of military-aged foreign men, have few to no serious dating prospects, and watch powerlessly as laws are passed to persecute you for complaining about any of this... Why bother?
This seems like a distorted world view of someone with a massive persecution complex and who is already susceptible to conspiracy theories. Nobody's telling lonely white men they're inherently evil for their gender. Nobody's telling them they're inherently evil due to their race. And nobody's passing laws to persecute you for making these silly complaints on HN.
Most people benefit immensely from and are indeed dependent on our existing institutions. They pretend they don't and aren't because it's cool and edgy to seem apart from it all. Yes, there are people who fall through the cracks, but by and large, things like public education, public health and safety, emergency services like fire departments, infrastructure like roads and airports, water, sewage, waste management services, libraries, museums, and so on, all benefit far more people than not. As someone else quotes: "They're like housecats: convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don't appreciate or understand."
I do agree that more and more people cannot earn enough for a dignified life supporting a family, and see no path to owning their own home, and that's a real and growing problem. But that's no reason to nuke the whole country and start over.
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> If you've been told your whole life that you're inherently evil for your gender I'm sorry, I'm nowhere near an expert on gender theory but even I know this is BS: nobody is telling young men they're "evil for their gender." What they are told is the fact that they live in a patriarchy. Nobody is held personally responsible for being born into the patriarchy, and the patriarchy is just as toxic to young men as it is…
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