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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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post #9

Maybe off-topic and patronizing .. sorry about that. "Running around in the woods, firing small plastic pellets at other people, in pursuit of a contrived-to-be-fun mission, turns out to be, well, fun." I was wondering if there are no biodegradable bullets for Airsoft and found out that they exist. Maybe a better solution than plastic in the woods.

I haven’t played with airsoft since I was a kid, but I remember the biodegradable ones back then had issues. They would fall apart when you shot em, sometimes deteriorate inside the gun and muck it up.

I’m sure they’re better now, but I have no idea!

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#33
post #6

He acknowledges the issue in the article, but doesn’t seem to grasp it fully. Public means not private. What you do in public is not private. In presumptive free societies, when in public, one is allowed to notice what others are doing in public. Secret is the opposite of public. The paranoia around being seen feels a lot like the other reptile-brain based phobias like fear of poisoning with vaccines.

Any chance you're relatively young?

I've noticed that folks born after some point in the early 2000's tend to feel this way, and they don't even realize that the survellience in 1984 was meant to be problematic, or why it might feel that way to others

It seems that the panopticon has been normalized successfully.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#34
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think bigger - public spaces, streets, in general. Would be nice to solve this.

It is solved. Videos and photos are allowed in public spaces. You just don’t like the solution.

Heh, you could be right on this one. But on the other hand, if I was the one filming and I knew a person in the frame wanted more privacy if possible I would be glad to omit them or cut them out.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#35
post #11

I get it, but the alternative is what? Get model release forms from anyone in a public space every time you turn your video camera on? Who's to say how much of you I have in the shot? Do you feature? Did you flash by? Are you blurred? Recognisable? I was shooting video of a car park exit last year. (I was trying to prove to the shopping centre owners that it was dangerous.) Mundane footage. Some lady drives out in he…

... The bank was filming the ATM the whole time.

There are a lot of '1A' auditors on youtube. They can be nasally and annoying but it's hilarious how often people go into a rage that they're being filmed despite the fact the people getting angry are doing the same to everyone else.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#36
post #9

Maybe off-topic and patronizing .. sorry about that. "Running around in the woods, firing small plastic pellets at other people, in pursuit of a contrived-to-be-fun mission, turns out to be, well, fun." I was wondering if there are no biodegradable bullets for Airsoft and found out that they exist. Maybe a better solution than plastic in the woods.

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#37

> Clearly, one should be able to exist in society, including going outside one’s own home, without needing to accept this kind of thing. This is not clear at all to me. When you go into public you’re accepting that you might be filmed. The reality is that you are being filmed constantly. It’s just that it bothers you sometimes. It reminds me of The Light of Other Days (a book about a society where technology makes an…

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#38
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think bigger - public spaces, streets, in general. Would be nice to solve this.

I disagree. It wouldn't be nice to solve it, because it would mean nobody could ever take a picture of anything where there might be anyone recognizable in the background, without getting them to sign some kind of model release first. Is that what you want? For innocent photography in public to be essentially outlawed?

Or you know, not making it public.

And if you might need to make the photo public, you could blur the faces.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#39
I think conversation gets more telling if you include some more protected groups like children. And then more slightly more intimate places, like say pools or beaches and expand it to proper zoom and telephoto lenses.

Is there still in those case no expectation of privacy? Where exactly is the line? Maybe changing rooms and toilets are not public places anymore... But is the line really that clear?

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

#40
post #6

He acknowledges the issue in the article, but doesn’t seem to grasp it fully. Public means not private. What you do in public is not private. In presumptive free societies, when in public, one is allowed to notice what others are doing in public. Secret is the opposite of public. The paranoia around being seen feels a lot like the other reptile-brain based phobias like fear of poisoning with vaccines.

Airsoft is probably played in a private woodland.
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