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Homeowner baffled after washing machine uses 3.6GB of internet data a day (2024)

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Re: Homeowner baffled after washing machine uses 3.6GB of internet data a day (2024)

#31

Looks like IoT devices are the next frontier in residential proxies ... or provide spies the next leading indicator into SV business performance.

They've been the current frontier for nearly a decade now! Mirai, back in 2016, famously was heavily composed of IP cameras, one of the earlier examples of what we now call IoT.

Re: Homeowner baffled after washing machine uses 3.6GB of internet data a day (2024)

#32
I am playing with home automation, and one of the reasons i’m only using zigbee devices is that they have no outside network access. I have two wifi thermostats that I bought before, and one of these days I’m going to have to set up a firewall of some kind to block them from outside access.

Re: Homeowner baffled after washing machine uses 3.6GB of internet data a day (2024)

#35
I just want normal buttons and dials back. Not time-based capacitance buttons that take 5.02 seconds to activate, not 5.0 seconds; nor free-spinning encoder wheels that mandate you give it a jiggle before the washer does anything, even if it's already on the setting you want.

I want kachunk-a-chunk back first. Then we can decide if it needs smarts.

Re: Homeowner baffled after washing machine uses 3.6GB of internet data a day (2024)

#36

I just want normal buttons and dials back. Not time-based capacitance buttons that take 5.02 seconds to activate, not 5.0 seconds; nor free-spinning encoder wheels that mandate you give it a jiggle before the washer does anything, even if it's already on the setting you want. I want kachunk-a-chunk back first. Then we can decide if it needs smarts.

Can we keep the happy sunshiny tune it plays when it completes the job?

Re: Homeowner baffled after washing machine uses 3.6GB of internet data a day (2024)

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can but they can constantly scan for any open connection that happens by and then dump cached data into it when one is found. Cell modems are becoming cheaper too, as is bulk cellular bandwidth, especially if buffered for periods of low utilization. In those cases, it might be less data since the connection is limited or the data harvester is paying. People with basement laundry rooms will have a built in advanta…

One can still conduct deauth attacks fairly easily, or, if the device just picks the strongest open network signal, one can set up a dummy / honeypot WLAN right next to the appliance that has no internet connectivity, and as you note with the basement reference, faraday solutions can work well, too, not to mention simply removing or disabling the networking hardware. This is also true for cars - it's often not terrib…

> conducting deauth attacks so your appliances don't spy on you

ted was right

Re: Homeowner baffled after washing machine uses 3.6GB of internet data a day (2024)

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One can still conduct deauth attacks fairly easily, or, if the device just picks the strongest open network signal, one can set up a dummy / honeypot WLAN right next to the appliance that has no internet connectivity, and as you note with the basement reference, faraday solutions can work well, too, not to mention simply removing or disabling the networking hardware. This is also true for cars - it's often not terrib…

> conducting deauth attacks so your appliances don't spy on you ted was right

Counterpoint: Stallman was right. Technology is a net benefit to society when users can control it, whereas stripping control from users (a la proprietary software) enables and promotes abusive, exploitative business practices like these.

Re: Homeowner baffled after washing machine uses 3.6GB of internet data a day (2024)

#39

How to measure the internet usage of a specific appliance? By installing a sniffer in the router, or is there another way?

Good routers show usage by device. I don't know, why the sibling answer is dead, but ubiquity routers seem to have this feature. Mikrotik and keenetic are other routers, that are capable of that. Maybe recent Fritzbox routers too.
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