Any protests planned?
There was one this Sunday, but it wasn't even mentioned in the news.
Denmark wants to push through Chat Control
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Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control
#32What I don't understand is, why don't the authorities think the actual bad guys will avoid the surveillance? It seems to me that organized crime will find their own solution, and the rest of us will occasionally have a snooping policeman checking our private messages. It's not unknown, even in Denmark, that people who are given access to private data will abuse it, eg snooping on ex girlfriends, that kind of thing. W…
I think most people, if pressed, would share your evaluation. However, even though surveillance is always marketed and sold as a tool for law enforcement, I think the people proposing such bills are aware that it's primary use is for political control, power, and espionage.
Safety is the bait in the bait and switch. So the measure is not whether or not surveillance actually works for making people safer. But whether or not it actually works as bait.
Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control
#33What I don't understand is, why don't the authorities think the actual bad guys will avoid the surveillance? It seems to me that organized crime will find their own solution, and the rest of us will occasionally have a snooping policeman checking our private messages. It's not unknown, even in Denmark, that people who are given access to private data will abuse it, eg snooping on ex girlfriends, that kind of thing. W…
It is additional tool. More tools -> better chance at catching the criminals.
Downsides are purely theoretical and only brought up by conspiracy theorists and academics.
(Technically correct, the best kind..)
Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is how the government is trying to save face now that Disney decided to stand up to them. Their threats are public, their later lies do not change them.
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Didn't trump post truths about firing Kimmel and Colbert? this seems to be a pattern
> Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences,
This is true, but the 1st amendment applies to the government - when the government is limiting speech, it is time to be concerned–especially given trump's track record (attempt to usurp Biden with Jan 6th, political violence comments, "jokes" about a third term, etc.)
Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control
#35You would think the Danish are smarter than this.
Denmark is the embassy of American NSA in Europe.
Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the legislative sense, it might eventually pass. As has happened in every case so far (with increasing intensity and ease), the internet will route around it.
the internet will route around it How will the internet route around client side scanning? Some here will not be affected but I suspect the masses would have a harder time assuming they are even aware that cell phones, Windows recall and Mac mediaanalysisd are performing scans. Most people do not install custom phone OS images.
> Mac mediaanalysisd are performing scans
Would this work? https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/u17hsa/please_help_m...
sudo killall -STOP mediaanalysisd mediaanalysisd-accessRe: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control
#37If you have been watching the world in 2025 you know Tor is gradually becoming essential. Install the Tor Browser and search for free speech in the hidden service HTTP response dumps here: https://rnsaffn.com/zg4/ Not censored, not safe for work, sorry.
It sounds like chat control will require Tor clients in Europe to scan traffic before it is encrypted and report material to (local?) governments. This could be enforced, on phones at least, with Android's new developer key signing requirements that are slated to be phased in one year from now (in 2026).
Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is how the government is trying to save face now that Disney decided to stand up to them. Their threats are public, their later lies do not change them.
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Free speech? The very thing you were just very concerned about? Also, there's no evidence that guy was leftist at all.
Re: Denmark wants to push through Chat Control
#39I didn't think Denmark was a pseudo-democracy but you learn new things every day.
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#40Who would be allowed to configure the scanners and receive the reports, an EU security body, or the member states?