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Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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Post by bmitc »

VoidWhisperer wrote: post #20
bmitc wrote: post #16

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Is that actually true for Microsoft? How they've evolved .NET and VS Code is amazing. You can make a PR on Microsoft's repos, someone actually pays attention, you get to talk and worth with Microsoft employees, and they merge things in. Microsoft is leaps and bounds more open than Google and Apple when it comes to development tooling.

That is one part of microsoft, yeah, but then you also them making various parts of windows worse to try to squeeze every penny out of people, and where that fails, doing things like ads for apps in the start menu

Apple is still orders of magnitude worse in every vector though. The bully everyone from users, employees, to suppliers.

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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Post by bmitc »

CrimsonCape wrote: post #22
bmitc wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that actually true for Microsoft? How they've evolved .NET and VS Code is amazing. You can make a PR on Microsoft's repos, someone actually pays attention, you get to talk and worth with Microsoft employees, and they merge things in. Microsoft is leaps and bounds more open than Google and Apple when it comes to development tooling.

Not only is dotnet development is the benchmark to aspire to (IMO), i'm not sure you could name another corporate project that comes even close. Is there a way to globally see github project activity by rank? All of dotnet is MIT. They literally have public meetings and take public notes. What other corporate project has this?

None that I know of. It's really impressive. Although, they really should have made .NET cross-platform from the beginning.

I even advocated for a previous company to try and find someone from the .NET project to help lead a similar but smaller tech transition.

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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Post by sunaookami »

pjmlp wrote: post #28
sunaookami wrote: post #17

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Huh, Android Studio is amazing because it's build by people who actually know how to make software (JetBrains) and it runs everywhere.

Provided one has 32 GB, with 16 real cores and a 1TB SSD ultra-fast.

That's a pretty standard dev machine no?

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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Post by dadie »

Honestly, the second to last paragraph reminded me a lot of my experience with eclipse back in 2011 to 2014. I think it was called the eclipse dance back than. A random order of clearing the cache, rebuilding, disabling/enabling plugins, creating a new workspace and restarting the ide would solve most problems. It is one of the reasons I developed a disdain for eclipse. I later even switched jobs mostly to get away from it.

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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Post by bronlund »

I love my mac and I hate everything Microsoft, but just as Xcode may be the worst piece of software coming out of Apple, Visual Studio (no, not VSCode) may be the greatest piece of software coming out of Microsoft.

It is an amazing piece of engineering. It's not perfect, it has it's share of bugs and quirks, but still, it's a wonder to behold :D

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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Post by em-bee »

this is very disappointing considering that the spiritual ancestor ProjectBuilder/InterfaceBuilder from NeXT was considered amazing and ahead of its time. Apparently after NeXT joined Apple, ProjectBuilder was rewritten from scratch. maybe that's where the problems started...

Re: Xcode Is the Worst Piece of Professional Software I Have Ever Used

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Post by RedNifre »

Could some Xcode uers explain to me why AppCode (IntelliJ IDE) did not take off as an Xcode replacement? I recently had to do some iOS work, knew that Xcode sucks, wanted to try AppCode, only to learn that it was discontinued because of lack of interest.
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