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Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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post #18

If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

> It consists of just 2 doses. Wasn't it 3 doses before?

you're right its 3, updated message

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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post #12

Does the vaccine benefit you if you've already been infected?

I've heard of it being administered post exposure as a way to help the body fight the existing infection. Seemed a little odd when I first heard it as HPV should clear on it's own.

The key is you want it to clear as quickly as possible.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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post #18

If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

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Enjoy your warts

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#34

Good news. Bad news is that many countries came close to wiping out measles et al. too, but it takes sustained effort to keep things like that.

Amazing how badly the United States is regressing. Literally measles is making a comeback due to idiots like RFK.

This is now a global problem. The guy who started it, Andrew Wakefield, is British, and we have long had antivaxxers in Europe too.

Prior to Covid, the antivaxx scene was vaguely left-and-green oriented, biomoms, vegans and other "very natural" people; you would expect them to vote for Greens or even more alternative parties. This changed abruptly and now the antivaxx scene is mostly rightwing, but the common base is still the same distrust.

I wonder if this is the price we pay for radical informational transparency. Nowadays, democratic countries with reasonable freedom of press cannot really prevent their own fuckups from surfacing in the worst possible way. Some people react by complete rejection of anything that comes from "official" channels and become ripe for manipulation from other actors.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Does the vaccine benefit you if you've already been infected?

In a sense no, hence the choice to vaccinate younger children who will mostly not be sexually active yet. But because the modern versions of these vaccines cover many strains (initial vaccines were two, Denmark chose a 4 way vaccine, now a nine way) it's very possible that you get a meaningful benefit by being protected from say six strains your body has never seen, even though the three it has already seen wouldn't…

It should be noted that the decision to vaccinate younger children is a combination of disease prevention and cost, not just vaccine effectiveness.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#36
post #18

If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

Any way to test for previous exposure? I'd be pretty surprised if I didn't already have antibodies. I suppose it doesn't matter though.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#37

By way of contrast, America's current top "doctor" organized a class-action lawsuit against the HPV vaccine. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/... ( "Kennedy played key role in Gardasil vaccine case against Merck" ) > "Details of the Gardasil litigation show how Kennedy took action beyond sowing doubt about the safety and efficacy of vaccines in the court of public opinion and helped build a…

We have the first leaders.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazing how badly the United States is regressing. Literally measles is making a comeback due to idiots like RFK.

This is now a global problem. The guy who started it, Andrew Wakefield, is British, and we have long had antivaxxers in Europe too. Prior to Covid, the antivaxx scene was vaguely left-and-green oriented, biomoms, vegans and other "very natural" people; you would expect them to vote for Greens or even more alternative parties. This changed abruptly and now the antivaxx scene is mostly rightwing, but the common base is…

> I wonder if this is the price we pay for radical informational transparency. Nowadays, democratic countries with reasonable freedom of press cannot really prevent their own fuckups from surfacing in the worst possible way. Some people react by complete rejection of anything that comes from "official" channels and become ripe for manipulation from other actors.

Such people have always existed, unfortunately. I don't think it's a result of anything particularly new.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#39
post #18

If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

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>I'd rather take my chances with the actual disease at this point..

Gross, @DaSHacka. Absolutely vile.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

#40
post #13

And I can't get the shot in Germany because I'm "too old" and just assumed to be infected with it already, anyway. What a great system.

Can you pay for it?

In Denmark you can. I was in my mid thirties when I went to my doctor to ask them to prescribe it. Before each shot I would go to the pharmacy and buy one dose and go to the doctor to have them administer it for me (if I wanted to). At that time I think it was free for teenage girls, now it's free for teenage boys as well.
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