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Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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It’s crazy how modern and complex company structures became impossible to govern. There are so many cases in which criminals just open a ton of new companies, to overload the authorities. Until the authorities shut something down, they moved on three times already.

That's why you usually need a permit to sell insurance.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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I used to believe strongly in financial sanctions over war but I'm becoming more skeptical. Markets and industry are a very hard thing to constrain at a global scale. To do it effectively you basically encourage a giant financial surveillance state and need put huge pressure on partner countries - who often don't even implement it meaningfully. You make business harder for everyone and create lucrative black market organize crime business.

Military action is appearing more preferable to that.

For example:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxk454kxz8o

> In the wake of the February 2022 invasion, Ukraine's allies imposed sanctions on Russian hydrocarbons. The US and UK banned Russian oil and gas, while the EU banned Russian seaborne crude imports, but not gas.

> Despite this, by 29 May, Russia had made more than €883bn ($973bn; £740bn) in revenue from fossil fuel exports since the start of the full-scale invasion, including €228bn from the sanctioning countries, according to the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (CREA).

> The lion's share of that amount, €209bn, came from EU member states.

Meaning 3 years into the war Europe is still sending more $$ to Russia for gas than they send Ukraine in aid

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Canada also recommended to leave residential doors unlocked with the car keys in plain sight to reduce the chances of property damage and personal harm when the thieves come for your car, so Canada can get stuffed.

I thought this was made up nonsense, but for those who are thinking the same thing as me, a Toronto police officer really recommended doing exactly this [0].

[0] https://globalnews.ca/news/10359055/leave-car-keys-the-front...

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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When the government can't succeed in making public transit appealing, I guess they fall back on letting thieves steal everybody's cars so people have no other choice, Lmao.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada also recommended to leave residential doors unlocked with the car keys in plain sight to reduce the chances of property damage and personal harm when the thieves come for your car, so Canada can get stuffed.

I thought this was made up nonsense, but for those who are thinking the same thing as me, a Toronto police officer really recommended doing exactly this [0]. [0] https://globalnews.ca/news/10359055/leave-car-keys-the-front...

Recently a man was shot and killed in a home invasion defending his family (also in Ontario). The police first claimed it was a targeted killing (implying the man was a gang member), then when that turned out false, the police said you should comply with home invaders instead of resisting...

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-top-cop-wa...

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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post #32

I used to believe strongly in financial sanctions over war but I'm becoming more skeptical. Markets and industry are a very hard thing to constrain at a global scale. To do it effectively you basically encourage a giant financial surveillance state and need put huge pressure on partner countries - who often don't even implement it meaningfully. You make business harder for everyone and create lucrative black market o…

The only other options are psychological or kinetic.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada also recommended to leave residential doors unlocked with the car keys in plain sight to reduce the chances of property damage and personal harm when the thieves come for your car, so Canada can get stuffed.

I thought this was made up nonsense, but for those who are thinking the same thing as me, a Toronto police officer really recommended doing exactly this [0]. [0] https://globalnews.ca/news/10359055/leave-car-keys-the-front...

It's good advice. Losing a car is much less worse than personal injury or worse. Everybody's a toughguy until a methhead who can't feel pain stabs you 15 times. Should the police crack down? Sure, but they aren't magicians, crime isn't gonna magically dissolve tomorrow. In the mean time, keep yourself safe by not inviting harm.

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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It’s important to follow due process. We need more checks and balances, not fewer. Ideally, any accusations like this should first go through a careful examination by a jury of one’s peers rather than just being posted willy nilly. We need to follow the process. And the process should be extensive. This is a problem of not enough process. Ideally, we could have more.

Due process needs to be a lot faster and it could be. Things which warrant immediate action are delayed by months, years, or decades by wildly inefficient and slow processes that have nothing to do with someone's right to fair judgement.

"Justice delayed is justice denied".

Re: Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought this was made up nonsense, but for those who are thinking the same thing as me, a Toronto police officer really recommended doing exactly this [0]. [0] https://globalnews.ca/news/10359055/leave-car-keys-the-front...

Recently a man was shot and killed in a home invasion defending his family (also in Ontario). The police first claimed it was a targeted killing (implying the man was a gang member), then when that turned out false, the police said you should comply with home invaders instead of resisting... https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-top-cop-wa...

So.. I live in Ontario. And I actually agree with that statement. Why would you resist and risk your life instead of just complying? Material things aren't worth actually getting hurt over.

The implication that "the police say this because they can't stop the crime" is IMO not the right take-away. The correct take-away is that a certain level of crime is unavoidable in practice, and you should prioritize your life over your property.

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