I'm glad there's vibe coding available to non-tech founders so they can build the equivalent of high-fidelity prototypes. May not be MVP worthy yet, but at least it gets them started.
All vibe coding tools are selling a get rich quick scheme
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#32I was at a coffee shop a little while ago with some friends and a stranger was sitting near us working on his laptop. Someone from our group decided to strike up a conversation with him and the stranger started telling us about how now they have these AI tools that can have you make an app in a few hours and without knowing how to code. He was not a software person but look at what he is able to do with it. The impli…
People say this, but you'll know it's real or not when the world will drown in a mountain of AI-authored shovelware from non-engineers.
To be fair, we are currently drowning in a mountain of AI-written blogspam that makes using most popular search engines nearly impossible to find basic information. And honestly I am sure the app stores are full of apps that nobody wants and nobody uses because who needs another calculator or alarm clock app?
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#33…and there’s nothing wrong with that
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#34The trick is that you have to be a good coder to get the most out of "vibe" coding. It works great for me, but I deploy all of the knowledge I've acquired over the decades as a professional developer. You need to know how to architect systems, what data structures and algorithms to ask for, how to design a product, many facets of graphic and user interface design, how to parcel out work, how to parallelize tasks. Eve…
Absolutely. It's augmentation not automation, it does what I want or it gets the hose again. You make the framework and it colours in the lines. If you don't draw the pattern first you're going to get a kindergarten mess. There are times I'm amazed by its suggestions but it will also cheat and "lie" and if you're not paying attention, you'll miss it. But these days many tasks for me consist of: I need this, look how…
It’ll cheat a lot when writing unit tests. Particularly “agentic” tools like cursor. It’ll get a test to pass, even if it’s against a laughably incorrect implementation.
I’ve ended up with tests called stuff like “foobar successfully returns impossible value that suggests programmer error” lmao
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#35The trick is that you have to be a good coder to get the most out of "vibe" coding. It works great for me, but I deploy all of the knowledge I've acquired over the decades as a professional developer. You need to know how to architect systems, what data structures and algorithms to ask for, how to design a product, many facets of graphic and user interface design, how to parcel out work, how to parallelize tasks. Eve…
I 100% agree that this is how the experience is right now.
I don't necessarily think it will stay this way, though. The tools are so new, we shouldn't be so sure that the future versions won't allow non-coders to code successfully.
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#36i think a lot of social media influencers are selling a get rich quick scheme around other people's AI products.
the actual AI companies marketing hype seems to claim:
1) you can make fun non-serious toy apps
2) any day now massive productivity increases for software companies. this is different than anyone can launch a product with no software skills.
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#37This blog post is engagement farming clickbait. Not even saying he's wrong, but it is.
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#38Most people who vibe code will never make anything meaningful. Low effort in -> low effort out I can actually code so no point in vibing. To vibe means to never look at the code, where is the fun in that?
Not all coding is interesting, I would say the majority of it is a chore.
One shotting small utilities that I have no interest in writing (for me, front-end JS, chrome extensions, web scraping selectors) is wonderful. I just vibe coded a "crop a pdf" web UI and it worked with no intervention. It doesn't have to be meaningful, just useful.
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#39> at first i was very hopeful i can finally 'build' now with my minimal tech skills This is the problem. If you couldn't have coded it slowly in the old world, you will have problems coding it in AI world. However if you have a lot of coding experience, you can now compress the time it would have taken you be an enormous amount. My experience is that I can now make extensive changes with very little effort, and very…
I have about 6 months of actual coding knowledge via bootcamp. But I’ve seen enough repos that I know what good practices look like.
That’s about enough for me to build out fairly complex products very fast with AI (Claude Code). Claude Code often makes some fundamental mistakes that you wouldn’t be able to catch if you didn’t have any coding experience (like today, it was trying to save large images directly in the database instead of using file storage).
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#40> at first i was very hopeful i can finally 'build' now with my minimal tech skills This is the problem. If you couldn't have coded it slowly in the old world, you will have problems coding it in AI world. However if you have a lot of coding experience, you can now compress the time it would have taken you be an enormous amount. My experience is that I can now make extensive changes with very little effort, and very…
This will be a big problem in the future if it means more companies choosing not to hire/train juniors. Eventually all the experienced people will be dead or retired.
Idk I honestly feel like it makes junior developers more valuable. Junior are devs are often a cost as make as an asset, cause they take a lot of time and attention away from senior devs.
Now a junior can ask an AI like 90% of questions that would otherwise occupy a senior:
- Why does this dockerfile copy these files first? - how can I find the entrypoints to this service? - is there anything related to image processing in this entire project?
LLMs let juniors punch above their weight, and it lets seniors go faster. Of course if everybody is twice as efficient, you don’t need as many devs (debatable), but I don’t think junior devs are going anywhere. I hear a lot of CEO hype posts saying junior devs are outdated, but idk it doesn’t make any sense to me!