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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

#32
I'd be curious to understand their rationale for not making a small, reasonably priced phone like the iPhone SE used to be. I probably will be leaving the iPhone ecosystem the next time I have to buy a smartphone (even though I use a Mac, iPad, and Airpods, which all work together really well) because I'm uninterested in using a large phone.

Thinking through my own use case, I just use my phone for messaging, maps, and the occasional app, so I'm not going to need a big screen for consuming content. I also don't want to spend a lot of money on a phone, since I don't need any fancy features. So perhaps that intersection of use cases doesn't make much sense to target?

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

#33
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mind walking through what you saw that helped you make the decision?

> Mind walking through what you saw that helped you make the decision? I upgrade every year to impress friends, family, and colleagues. I don’t use a case. I’ll be ordering the orange 17 pro.

I wish I have a friend or colleague that could be impressed by a new phone.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

#34

Surprising there’s no matte-black iPhone 17 Pro - dark, low-reflectance finishes are standard in pro video kit because they minimise specular reflections and stray highlights; keeping a shiny silver finish and skipping a subdued matte black feels like a strange choice and undercuts the “Pro” claim.

It's not a strange choice at all when you realize that the majority of people use phone cases and it's more difficult to make matte "pop" in promotional content

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

#35
post #25

> iPhone 17 introduces N1, a new Apple-designed wireless networking chip that enables Wi-Fi 7, Bluetooth 6, and Thread. What is Thread?

A very badly named mesh networking protocol designed for IoT applications, usually used as the transport layer for the equally badly named "Matter" IoT protocol.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

#36
post #25

> iPhone 17 introduces N1, a new Apple-designed wireless networking chip that enables Wi-Fi 7, Bluetooth 6, and Thread. What is Thread?

Thread is a mesh networking protocol mostly targeted at IoT and smart-home connectivity - it's basically a Zigbee competitor.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

#37
Each new model has an asymptotically smaller feature bump. In 10 years we may have converged on the complete cell phone.

Maybe the recent introduction of foldable phones indicates the opposite. Is it the final blip, or will something similarly disruptive happen every 5-7 years?

Discuss.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

#38
post #25

> iPhone 17 introduces N1, a new Apple-designed wireless networking chip that enables Wi-Fi 7, Bluetooth 6, and Thread. What is Thread?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_(network_protocol)

> Thread is an IPv6-based, low-power mesh networking technology for Internet of things (IoT) products.

> Often used as a transport for Matter (the combination being known as Matter over Thread), the protocol has seen increased use for connecting low-power and battery-operated smart-home devices.

> Thread uses 6LoWPAN, which, in turn, uses the IEEE 802.15.4 wireless protocol with mesh communication (in the 2.4 GHz spectrum), as do Zigbee and other systems. However, Thread is IP-addressable, with cloud access and AES encryption. A BSD-licensed open-source implementation of Thread called OpenThread is available from and managed by Google.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 17

#39
I'm surprised that Apple is giving every single iPhone model 256 GB starting capacity. My prediction would've been 256 GB for the Pro and 128 GB for the base iPhone 17. Guess those AI models need space?
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