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South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

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Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

#31
What nobody is discussing is why hyundai was apparently employing 500 illegal workers [edit: i see some HNers have commented on it. The news sites and reddit have all somehow completely overlooked this significant angle]. I think it's reasonable to question if they got full employment rights as if they had been legal residents. Frankly i'm amazed the white house hasn't yet made a huge fuss about it and why hyundai isn't being held to account.

You can tell me that i've got it all wrong, and the workers were completely legal and they weren't exploiting cheap labour and this isn't a huge scandal, but please back up your claims. As far as i can tell hyundai is getting away scott free with breaking the law because they are a big corporation.

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

#32
Disclaimer: I’m a South Korean, so I’m gonna be hugely biased.

But with the disclaimer, the whole raid is stupid – I thought the US govt was trying to bring jobs to the states, encourage foreign investments, and move manufacturing over there? And then the very next thing they do is detaining and deporting people who are there to literally do that?

Even if you’re gonna complain about not having the correct visas, at least treat the people who are helping your country in good faith, not like people who got caught while trying to smuggle in across the border.

About the visa situation – quoting a comment from the past article since it explains it more clearly than what I could possible do:

> For people saying "they should have had the right visa", no one does this.

> Any day of the week all of the big tech companies will have dozens of overseas engineers in the US attending meetings, and gasp working on-site (writing code, etc). They all have either tourist visas or visa waivers.

> And it's the same thing when the US engineers visit the remote sites in other countries.

> Regardless of what the letter of the law is, this has long been the practice, because it's the only workable solution and is clearly within the spirit of the law.

> In this case LG was fitting out a new batter factory. That is a very complex setup with highly specialized machines. The ONLY way that was ever going to happen was with LG specialists coming over to do the setup and get the line working. And it's almost certain that getting "correct" visas for all these people would have been practically impossible, and has not been the actual practice for many decades.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45159119

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

#33
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also short-sighted: pissing off our international partners that we would rather build factories in the U.S.

Assuming that they are in illegally, the U.S. is the party that should be upset. If you are going to do business in the U.S. then you need to follow us laws.

Someone trying to be diplomatic might, for example, allow them a window of time within which to apply to extend their visas.

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

#34

And then next week the exact same workers will return to the US and work will continue, delayed by 2 weeks.

Why would they risk it? I'd never return to this country again.

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Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And if as a requirement for allowing foreign workers into the US they had to train 1-2 US workers to their own level of expertise, would that be a fair trade?

These Korean engineers and contractors were literally there to oversee the installation of new machinery at the battery plant under construction and train US staff on its operation, lol.

Wow who doesn't want Hyundai making batteries?

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

#36
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also short-sighted: pissing off our international partners that we would rather build factories in the U.S.

Assuming that they are in illegally, the U.S. is the party that should be upset. If you are going to do business in the U.S. then you need to follow us laws.

You can say you're (rightfully) upset, without throwing employees of a major investor onto a jail without functioning toilets.

The problem is that the US is sending deeply conflicting messages. Does it want Hyundai's investment or not? It's not that Hyundai needs to build a factory in the middle of nowhere in Georgia.

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

#37
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming that they are in illegally, the U.S. is the party that should be upset. If you are going to do business in the U.S. then you need to follow us laws.

Someone trying to be diplomatic might, for example, allow them a window of time within which to apply to extend their visas.

My reading of the situation is that it was done maliciously or with negligence. Extending the visa a non work visa doesn’t make any sense.

I have sympathy for the workers. In reality it is the immmigration attorneys or other members of the company who need to be sanctioned.

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

#38
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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they all lacked work visas. Allegedly Hyundai subcontracted out the work to third parties who didn't bother to get work visas for their employees. Maybe Korean companies are used to getting away with that kind of thing? Seems fairly short sighted given the current focus on immigration.

> Yes, they all lacked work visas. Source?

This press conference is the source of all of the articles.

https://www.youtube.com/live/AD7n_nSOorU

4:30 Describes the search warrants and arrests.

5:10 "475 were illegally present in the United States"

6:25 "Majority were Korean nationals"

No criminal charges yet. It's an ongoing investigation.

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

#39
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming that they are in illegally, the U.S. is the party that should be upset. If you are going to do business in the U.S. then you need to follow us laws.

Someone trying to be diplomatic might, for example, allow them a window of time within which to apply to extend their visas.

Why? they’re being subsidized to hire Americans, not exploit foreign undocumented workers

Re: South Korea will bring home 300 workers detained in Hyundai plant raid

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post #26
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they all lacked work visas. Allegedly Hyundai subcontracted out the work to third parties who didn't bother to get work visas for their employees. Maybe Korean companies are used to getting away with that kind of thing? Seems fairly short sighted given the current focus on immigration.

> Yes, they all lacked work visas. Source?

If the people arrested here still have valid work visa it will become its own breaking news almost immediately
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