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I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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That's good, isn't it? I don't want the factory leaving performance on the table.

Depends on your priorities. That "performance on the table" might also be called "engineering safety factor for stability".

Given that there used to be plenty of room to overclock the cores while still keeping them stable, I think it was more "performance on the table".

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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No desktop CPU I’ve ever used has remained stable at 100 degrees. My 14900k crashes almost immediately at that temp. 3 hours at 100 degrees is obscene.

Yeah, i can’t believe they think it’s fine. I would’ve shutdown my PC and rethought my cooling setup the first time it hit 100C tbh

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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> I would say that 25 to 28 degrees celsius are normal temperatures for computers. An ideal ambient (room) temperature for running a computer is 15-25 celcius (60-77 Fahrenheit) Source: https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatacenter/definition/ambie...

And that is an impossibility in most of the world today and it will be even more like that going forward.

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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coretemp-isa-0000 Adapter: ISA adapter Package id 0: +40.0°C (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 0: +38.0°C (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 1: +39.0°C (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Are they saying this is bad? This Intel CPU has been at it for over a decade. There was a fan issue for half a year and would go up to 80 C for... half a year. Still works perfectly fine but it is outdated, it lacks instructi…

That is your CPU temperature, not ambient (room) temperature.

Oh, I misread. My bad!

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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This does not fill me with much hope. What am I even ought to buy at this point then, I wonder. I have a ~13 years old Intel CPU which lacks AVX2 (and I need it by now) and I thought of buying a new desktop (items separately, of course), but that is crazy to me that it freezes because of the CPU going idle. It was never an issue in my case. I guess I can only hope it is not going to be a problem once I completed buil…

Just buy an AMD CPU. One person’s experience isn’t the world. Nobody in my circle has had an issue with any chip from AMD in recent time (10 years). Intel is just bad at the moment and not even worth touching.

This is funny because recently my AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D died and I've decided that my next CPU will be Intel

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45043269

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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What do you use?

I’ve given up on both and use Apple Silicon only. AMD and Intel are simply too power hungry for how slow they are and can’t optimize for power like Apple can.

I also switched to cheapest Mac Mini M4 Pro this year (after 20+ years of using Intel CPUs). MacOS has its quirks, but it provides ZSH and it "just works" (unlike manjaro I used in parallel with Windows). I especially like the preview tool - it has useful pdf and photo editing options.

The hardware is impressive - tiny, metal box, always silent, basic speaker built-in and it can be left always on with minimal power consumption.

Drive size for basic models is limited (512gb) - I solved it by moving photos to NAS. I don't use it for gaming, except Hello Kitty Island Adventure. I would say it's a very competitive choice for a desktop PC in 2025 overall.

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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I feel like both Intel and AMD are not doing great in the desktop CPU stability department. I made a machine with a Ryzen 9900X a while back and it had the issue that it would freeze when idling. A few years before I had a 5950X that would regularly crash under load (luckily it was a prebuilt, so it was ultimately fixed). When you do not have a bunch of components ready to swap out it is also really hard to debug the…

This does not fill me with much hope. What am I even ought to buy at this point then, I wonder. I have a ~13 years old Intel CPU which lacks AVX2 (and I need it by now) and I thought of buying a new desktop (items separately, of course), but that is crazy to me that it freezes because of the CPU going idle. It was never an issue in my case. I guess I can only hope it is not going to be a problem once I completed buil…

It's either bad luck, bad power quality from the mains, or something in the air in that particular area. I know plenty of people running AM5 builds, have done so myself for the last couple of years, and there were no problems with any of them apart from the usual amdgpu bugs in latest kernels (which are "normal" since I'm running mainline kernels — it's easy to solve by just sticking to lts, and it has seemingly improved anyway since 6.15).

Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D

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post #15

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This does not fill me with much hope. What am I even ought to buy at this point then, I wonder. I have a ~13 years old Intel CPU which lacks AVX2 (and I need it by now) and I thought of buying a new desktop (items separately, of course), but that is crazy to me that it freezes because of the CPU going idle. It was never an issue in my case. I guess I can only hope it is not going to be a problem once I completed buil…

Just buy an AMD CPU. One person’s experience isn’t the world. Nobody in my circle has had an issue with any chip from AMD in recent time (10 years). Intel is just bad at the moment and not even worth touching.

That is what I thought, thanks.
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