Honest question: what will likely be done with a computer like this?
crack passwords?
Europe enters the exascale supercomputing league with Jupiter
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Re: Europe enters the exascale supercomputing league with Jupiter
#32Re: Europe enters the exascale supercomputing league with Jupiter
#33something with a little more technical detail: https://www.fz-juelich.de/en/ias/jsc/jupiter/tech looks like its just a big Nvidia installation. IB, Ceph, K8s, H100s
Don't know why your're downvoted, this is valid criticism. EU just bought 500 mil worth of hardware from the US, no specific European innovation, apart from system management (ParTec Italy). But would be happy to be proven otherwise.
So US supercomputers aren’t an achievement because they just bought chips from Taiwan and those aren’t also an achievement because they bought photolithography machines from ASML in Europe?
Since when are supercomputers anything other than just the ability to afford a lot of hardware?
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#34Honest question: what will likely be done with a computer like this?
Looks like a research cluster. Universities / their Researcher can apply for reasources instead of setting up own hardware.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't know why your're downvoted, this is valid criticism. EU just bought 500 mil worth of hardware from the US, no specific European innovation, apart from system management (ParTec Italy). But would be happy to be proven otherwise.
Germany got European taxpayers to buy them US hardware. That's a fairly normal day in the EU.
Don't forget it's made in china.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who exactly were you going to buy equipment from? AMD/Nvidia/Intel are the only players in town.
China with SMIC and Huawei's Ascend 910C would be an example of what you do if you want to pursue strategic autonomy. It's like asking "who exactly were you going to buy a 6th generation fighter from?"
Without questioning this idea on political grounds, I am not sure if it would be at all possible for an Ascend 910C cluster to enter the supercomputer rankings. I could not find a public datasheet on this chip (would appreciate a link), but my impression is that it is an AI accelerator that does not target FP64, whereas TOP500 is looking at HPC (FP64) performance [1].
[1] https://top500.org/resources/frequently-asked-questions/
Re: Europe enters the exascale supercomputing league with Jupiter
#37"With JUPITER, Europe becomes the home of the most powerful computer in Europe" -- Henna Virkkunen What does that mean?
Confusing grammar aside, the most powerful computer before this was HPC6 in Italy which is definitely in Europe. https://www.top500.org/lists/top500/2025/06/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercomputing_in_Europe
Your Top 500 link says something completely different:
"The 65th edition of the TOP500 showed that the El Capitan system retains the No. 1 position. With El Capitan, Frontier, and Aurora, there are now 3 Exascale systems leading the TOP500. All three are installed at Department of Energy (DOE) laboratories in the United States."
HPC6 is listed below those, and far less powerful.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Confusing grammar aside, the most powerful computer before this was HPC6 in Italy which is definitely in Europe. https://www.top500.org/lists/top500/2025/06/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercomputing_in_Europe
Your Top 500 link says something completely different: "The 65th edition of the TOP500 showed that the El Capitan system retains the No. 1 position. With El Capitan, Frontier, and Aurora, there are now 3 Exascale systems leading the TOP500. All three are installed at Department of Energy (DOE) laboratories in the United States." HPC6 is listed below those, and far less powerful.
In Europe, HPC6 was the fastest before Jupiter. It was No.4 last year and 6th now that JUPITER is taken 4th place.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who exactly were you going to buy equipment from? AMD/Nvidia/Intel are the only players in town.
China with SMIC and Huawei's Ascend 910C would be an example of what you do if you want to pursue strategic autonomy. It's like asking "who exactly were you going to buy a 6th generation fighter from?"
Until a year ago, few thought there would ever be a need for Europe to have strategic autonomy from the US in an area that was already solved by trade agreements. Presumably this project was conceived long before that.
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#40How do the gpu training clusters rank against the traditional “largest supercomputer” metric? Or is that comparing apples to oranges?
I think by some measures XAi already has the largest (200k H100 equivalent) and already constructing the 1 million gpu cluster.