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You don't want to hire "the best engineers"

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Re: You don't want to hire "the best engineers"

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Counterpoint: You want to hire the best engineers and empower them to work how they are most effective, remotely or not.

I'd say that you want to choose whether the company is remote vs. office-based, then filter on that before choosing who is "best", in order to hire a team of engineers who all agree on such fundamental choices. A cohort of engineers that has a split decision on where to work never forms a cohesive team. Both ways work... but they don't mix.

Re: You don't want to hire "the best engineers"

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Seems like the author is a bit frustrated from unrealistic expectations. Hits home as we’ve not filled a role for over six months.

Otherbranch is the recruiting firm Triplebyte employees started when Triplebyte wound down. This is a pretty standard recruiting lament!

Re: You don't want to hire "the best engineers"

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I interviewed with an early stage pre-seed startup with a very young team, like 25-27. I was interviewed by someone way more junior than me. According to the recruiter, in 3 months, I've made it the furthest and he told me this startup was churning through top tier candidates left and right.

After my interview, I immediately knew why. The team was so junior they didn't know how to evaluate senior talent. They didn't know what they wanted. I've arguably interviewed more candidates than the person interviewing me.

Last I checked, they still haven't filled that role.

The strong hires I've given all came from underrated candidates who didn't come from trendy backgrounds. Still think Dan Luu's advice holds up even more at early stage startups. https://danluu.com/programmer-moneyball/

Re: You don't want to hire "the best engineers"

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I always chuckle when I see a posting where the "BUSINESS" founder says something like "looking for a founding engineer to define our tech stack, but we've already decided we're going to use Python 2.8, Solaris, Azure and a custom build of VIM." [Obviously this is a bit of an exaggeration.]

Re: You don't want to hire "the best engineers"

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There is no such thing as "the best engineers." Some engineers are definitely better than others, but once you pass the bar of "really smart, great work ethic," the tech tree diverges pretty dramatically.

Some engineers (like Notch) are amazing at quickly putting out vast quantities of mediocre code, prototyping ideas, maintaining a clear product vision, and bringing something into reality quickly. Other engineers (like John Carmack) are great at generating well-founded opinions and finding clever solutions to difficult issues. Some engineers (like Bill Atkinson) worked mostly remotely and developed amazing technology, while other engineers (like Joel Spolsky) insisted on in-office and built a best-in-class mentorship organization.

While hiring people with exceptional talent is a step-change when it comes to any organization's ability to accomplish its goals, there is no one metric for "best." Much better to identify the specific skills for which you need exceptional talent, and to create a hiring funnel that identifies people who excel in that dimension.

Re: You don't want to hire "the best engineers"

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I mean...you should probably hire good enough engineers that a website can withstand a pretty small amount of HN attention... ...I kid! But seriously, though, how is it possible in 2025 that websites can still collapse from the relatively minuscule traffic that an HN front page sends? Are people upvoting this submission without having actually seen it? EDIT: For the "works for me" people, the site's host, framer.app,…

I would bet HN's readership are majority lurkers and not signed in.

I know how much of a traffic pump HN is, having had a number of pages front-page here during prime time over the years. It isn't that big of a traffic spike at all. It's a much more interesting and interested group than many sources, but a single-core min-scale cloud compute can handle it presuming you aren't doing something silly.

In this case their hosting app has screwed up SSL configs for some of their GeoIP served options.

Re: You don't want to hire "the best engineers"

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Yeah don't need best engineers to build another CRUD app.

100% this. Unless a startup is doing something truly novel from a technical point of view, what you really need at the early stages is someone who can glue together CRUD apps.

Later you might have to worry about how to make sure your system can scale, how the overall architecture fits together, etc etc.. but even _having_ those problems is already somewhat of a luxury as it means your startup hasn't died yet.

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