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Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Didn't know LTT's labs was already running. I'll be curious to see how their testing and data compares to gamersnexus testing and what their first catching a manufacturer's lies event will be.

I'm surprised it continues to exist at all. The main content ltt puts out these days is purely mass market entertainment. Physical products are still pretty good!

You're surprised they still exist... because they target wider audiences?

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Back in COVID times, when I had all the time in the world, my Switch got bricked after I charged it using my laptop charger. Nintendo refused to honor its warranty, citing some mumbo jumbo about proprietary USB-C hardware. Fortunately, we have pretty good consumer protection laws here in Australia By the end of an entire two month saga, they sent me a brand new Switch.

I always did think it was odd that a USB-C cable that wasnt Nintendo could break my Switch.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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I'm surprised it continues to exist at all. The main content ltt puts out these days is purely mass market entertainment. Physical products are still pretty good!

You're surprised they still exist... because they target wider audiences?

No, his point was that the lab isn't necessary for the content ltt is producing, so he expected them to stop the lab project to keep the profits higher

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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They did this to micro sd cards on the first switch. Looks like they found another way. Nintendo isn’t customer friendly. Gone are the days of the N64 and gone are the days of Nintendo pushing the boundaries of fun and entertainment.

Now, they make underpowered handhelds for kids with proprietary dongles like Apple in hopes of trapping their customers to their platform.

No thanks.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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They did this to micro sd cards on the first switch. Looks like they found another way. Nintendo isn’t customer friendly. Gone are the days of the N64 and gone are the days of Nintendo pushing the boundaries of fun and entertainment. Now, they make underpowered handhelds for kids with proprietary dongles like Apple in hopes of trapping their customers to their platform. No thanks.

They also threaten to sue grassroots scenes playing their >20yo games. Scenes that spend on their own dime to host 1000+ entrant tournaments and use skilled time to push the old game to the limit. (Melee). They have the scene currently in a legal stranglehold. It's partially gagged, but people who host Melee events are beholden to Nintendo so they can't run even lightly modded gameplay.

Melee runs on mods always nowadays (input processing patches for fairness and bugfixes), but they mod it in a way that doesn't have any visible difference so they get away with it.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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I was really excited when I learned that unplugging the cable, waiting some short period of time and plugging it back in, triggers a power-role swap. I've only tried it out on one occasion, and I'm not clear on the delay, or whether both ends need to be disconnected or only one. I was a little surprised it isn't talked about more.

Is that for a specific device? For standard dual-role USB-C devices they do a negotiation that is partially based on chance which power role they land on (but they can have policy that strongly prefers one role over the other).

I have this issue with my power bank and my Linux machine. In the end my workaround has to put it in suspend by closing the lid then plugging in the power bank

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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The Switch 1 had more of an excuse since it was released just as USB-C, particularly the more advanced parts like video out and PD were still very new. And the hardware was likely designed long beforehand. The Switch 2 came out in a world with widespread standards compliant USB-C.

I feel like that’s a significant retcon. Switch 1 was released in 2017. PD 1.0 was 2013 , and display port out was 2014. Both were supported by numerous devices by the time the switch 1 was out. Granted they really wanted hdmi alt mode which was 2016 but the switch 1 doesn’t even support display port out which could have been coupled with a converter in the dock. The simpler reason is that Nintendo both cheaps out on…

Displayport would have been fairly useless. I've never once seen a TV with Displayport inputs. They really should have had 9v PD working but at least 5v worked.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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post #33

Back in COVID times, when I had all the time in the world, my Switch got bricked after I charged it using my laptop charger. Nintendo refused to honor its warranty, citing some mumbo jumbo about proprietary USB-C hardware. Fortunately, we have pretty good consumer protection laws here in Australia By the end of an entire two month saga, they sent me a brand new Switch. I always did think it was odd that a USB-C cable…

It's not that strange. USB-C is a plug, not everyone who implements the plug also implements it correctly. Some chargers with a USB-C Plug might just send a fixed voltage over the cable, rather then implementing the protocols.

I'm not saying that's the case for you, but USB-C is a minefield and I've seen some weird things happen with USB-C plugs.

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