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A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Post by bigthymer »

HankStallone wrote: post #16
thisisnotauser wrote: post #4

This seems like yet another a hilariously disastrous misstep on the part of the Democrats, dark money and restricted speech and red tape. Have they considered just, you know, talking to people on the internet? The way normal humans do? The way Trump has done with such wildly incredible success?

The problem is, they don't like normal people. They don't trust them or think their opinions have value, and they've made that clear over the last several years. It took a while, but the normal people have finally started to get it. It wasn't always that way. Democrats like Bill Clinton used to be able to go out and talk to normal people and make them feel like he liked them and sympathized with them. I remember when…

> There's not a single prominent Democrat whom normal people look at and feel like he or she cares about them.

What about Bernie, AOC, Zohran? I think there are a few but probably none of the establishment ones.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Post by Jgoauh »

ses1984 wrote: post #24
Jgoauh wrote: post #3

at this point i'm not mad the democrats are doing propaganda i'm just offended at how shit they are at it. The republicans brainwashed half the country and overturned the constitution with 4 podcast bros and a dream and the democrats are busy trying to kick their most popular members out of the party.

Are we forgetting fox news, rush limbaugh...?

i don't think the ven diagram between people who watch tiktoks and rush limbaugh has much overlap. I think the republicans strategy towards social media platforms is extremely effective (sadly)

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Post by mensetmanusman »

monero-xmr wrote: post #9

Considering the shrill “DONATE NOW TO STOP TRUMP!!” emails were actually used to pay off campaign debt (after spending $1.5 billion!) I don’t think the Democrat base is primed for more shenanigans https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/25/us/politics/kamala-harris...

Also beware many of those texts are from scammers, they have stolen tens of millions from people thinking they are donating to democrats.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Post by actionfromafar »

HankStallone wrote: post #16
thisisnotauser wrote: post #4

This seems like yet another a hilariously disastrous misstep on the part of the Democrats, dark money and restricted speech and red tape. Have they considered just, you know, talking to people on the internet? The way normal humans do? The way Trump has done with such wildly incredible success?

The problem is, they don't like normal people. They don't trust them or think their opinions have value, and they've made that clear over the last several years. It took a while, but the normal people have finally started to get it. It wasn't always that way. Democrats like Bill Clinton used to be able to go out and talk to normal people and make them feel like he liked them and sympathized with them. I remember when…

I wonder if it's something in the water. (Or that money=free speech.) The Republicans also stopped listening and going out to meet people and see them. It's all a photo op now, and somehow Obamas fault.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Post by Jgoauh »

jmclnx wrote: post #29
Jgoauh wrote: post #3

at this point i'm not mad the democrats are doing propaganda i'm just offended at how shit they are at it. The republicans brainwashed half the country and overturned the constitution with 4 podcast bros and a dream and the democrats are busy trying to kick their most popular members out of the party.

Need to keep the donations from the top 1% flowing. What is needed is a repeal of Citizens United. Plus if your income is above sat 150,000 USD you can at most donate say 10000 per year to all political candidates, PACs and anything related to influencing political activities. Or better yet, all these donations must be fully published with the name of the people or all companies related to the company donating. No da…

In many countries an individual cannot donate more than about 10k dollars per year, and companies can't donate anything.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Post by [deleted] »

thisisnotauser wrote: post #4

This seems like yet another a hilariously disastrous misstep on the part of the Democrats, dark money and restricted speech and red tape. Have they considered just, you know, talking to people on the internet? The way normal humans do? The way Trump has done with such wildly incredible success?

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Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Post by nonethewiser »

Jgoauh wrote: post #32
ses1984 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we forgetting fox news, rush limbaugh...?

i don't think the ven diagram between people who watch tiktoks and rush limbaugh has much overlap. I think the republicans strategy towards social media platforms is extremely effective (sadly)

Or maybe a consolidated media industry is just not representative of what people actually believe.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

bigthymer wrote: post #31
HankStallone wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is, they don't like normal people. They don't trust them or think their opinions have value, and they've made that clear over the last several years. It took a while, but the normal people have finally started to get it. It wasn't always that way. Democrats like Bill Clinton used to be able to go out and talk to normal people and make them feel like he liked them and sympathized with them. I remember when…

> There's not a single prominent Democrat whom normal people look at and feel like he or she cares about them. What about Bernie, AOC, Zohran? I think there are a few but probably none of the establishment ones.

Yes what a great strategy to embrace the failed ideas of socialism!

You realize support among hispanics will drop to almost zero with that strategy because they know from experience in Latin and South America that such crazy ideas bring nothing but misery to everyone.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Post by viridian »

At this point I think the Democratic party would rather cede every office in the country to the opposition rather than tear down their careerist, insider focused superstructure.

If you are losing the chess game to adveraries who started playing the game mere months ago, you need to strip your play down to the bare fundamentals and start anew. What you've been doing isn't working against the softest possible opponents, it's time to pivot.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Post by Jgoauh »

Ekaros wrote: post #26
Jgoauh wrote: post #3

at this point i'm not mad the democrats are doing propaganda i'm just offended at how shit they are at it. The republicans brainwashed half the country and overturned the constitution with 4 podcast bros and a dream and the democrats are busy trying to kick their most popular members out of the party.

I never understood how they think they can win anyone over by antagonising them. Especially those who are not rich and affluent enough to be okay who ever wins...

i know ! its so stupid, all they have to do is ask people what they want and give it to them, but they can't piss of billionaires so they're stuck with 'its not our fault' and 'minorities can hang as long as they work' The republicans only ask billionaires what they want, politics are so much easier when your entire party is focused on the interests of like 1000 guys
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