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Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by 4ggr0 »

ahartmetz wrote: post #18

Install "Windows 10 IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC" if you don't mind buying grey market keys. Less crapware, more mature and less enshittified than 11, and security fixes until 2032. I don't want to endorse Windows at all (use Linux if you can!). But maybe you need it to occasionally test something or whatever.

Even though I professionally work with Linux I still don't trust it enough for gaming. I know that Steam does great things with Proton, my issue is that I'm not the type of gamer who constantly plays the same game - Play a game for how long the story or my interests lasts, then switch to the next game.

And after a whole day of debugging and hair pulling at work I just don't feel like then also debugging why a game is not running like it should.

But I heard I should give it a try again, last time I gave it a shot was 2-3 years ago. Big plus would be that I'd be completely free of Windows...

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by jamesnorden »

majkinetor wrote: post #26
whatsupdog wrote: post #13

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Nah, I used various Linux distros for years and the update problems happen there all the time, I think even more TBH, and require substantial technical expertise to fix them. IMO, the only good way is "if it works, don't fix it", which means, no updates. People are seriously overhyping updates. I stopped updating all the stuff - OSes, smart locks, android apps, TVs, BP monitors - I honestly had multiple update proble…

I've also been using Linux for years (Arch, btw) and never had an update break my install or cause issues, I've only had to fix the Linux bootloader when Windows overwrote it after a major update, multiple times...

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by 4ggr0 »

majkinetor wrote: post #26
whatsupdog wrote: post #13

[flagged]

Nah, I used various Linux distros for years and the update problems happen there all the time, I think even more TBH, and require substantial technical expertise to fix them. IMO, the only good way is "if it works, don't fix it", which means, no updates. People are seriously overhyping updates. I stopped updating all the stuff - OSes, smart locks, android apps, TVs, BP monitors - I honestly had multiple update proble…

i seriously hope you don't apply this "who needs security updates, just secure it on a different level"-mantra to your profession :O

i get it for private/home stuff (even then it would make me uncomfortable, but i see the appeal).

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

#34

Post by majkinetor »

jamesnorden wrote: post #32
majkinetor wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, I used various Linux distros for years and the update problems happen there all the time, I think even more TBH, and require substantial technical expertise to fix them. IMO, the only good way is "if it works, don't fix it", which means, no updates. People are seriously overhyping updates. I stopped updating all the stuff - OSes, smart locks, android apps, TVs, BP monitors - I honestly had multiple update proble…

I've also been using Linux for years (Arch, btw) and never had an update break my install or cause issues, I've only had to fix the Linux bootloader when Windows overwrote it after a major update, multiple times...

Really? I love Arch, but even my hard core Linux friends warn me about update problems.

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

#36

Post by hackinthebochs »

majkinetor wrote: post #26
whatsupdog wrote: post #13

[flagged]

Nah, I used various Linux distros for years and the update problems happen there all the time, I think even more TBH, and require substantial technical expertise to fix them. IMO, the only good way is "if it works, don't fix it", which means, no updates. People are seriously overhyping updates. I stopped updating all the stuff - OSes, smart locks, android apps, TVs, BP monitors - I honestly had multiple update proble…

Agreed. Continuous updates are unnecessary if you have sane restrictions on your system, i.e. strict firewall, limit software being installed. Probably the only exception to that is the web browser itself, but even that can be mitigated to an extent by running with an ad blocker and javascript off by default.

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by majkinetor »

4ggr0 wrote: post #33
majkinetor wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, I used various Linux distros for years and the update problems happen there all the time, I think even more TBH, and require substantial technical expertise to fix them. IMO, the only good way is "if it works, don't fix it", which means, no updates. People are seriously overhyping updates. I stopped updating all the stuff - OSes, smart locks, android apps, TVs, BP monitors - I honestly had multiple update proble…

i seriously hope you don't apply this "who needs security updates, just secure it on a different level"-mantra to your profession :O i get it for private/home stuff (even then it would make me uncomfortable, but i see the appeal).

It depends on context really. Security is a feature like anything else. In an ideal world I would agree with you, but professional security costs a lot of money and the stakeholder is not necessarily willing to pay for it versus actually observable features. Also, security might be irrelevant in a bunch of contexts, particularly with great recovery options (and absence of PII) that you need to have anyway and people are actually willing to pay for it as it covers grounds that overlap with security partially or totally.

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

#38

Post by johanvts »

ahartmetz wrote: post #18

Install "Windows 10 IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC" if you don't mind buying grey market keys. Less crapware, more mature and less enshittified than 11, and security fixes until 2032. I don't want to endorse Windows at all (use Linux if you can!). But maybe you need it to occasionally test something or whatever.

Had to get windows to play anti-cheat games. The EU mandated N versions seem pretty bloat free to me.

Re: Windows 11 Update KB5063878 Causing SSD Failures

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Post by ekianjo »

majkinetor wrote: post #26
whatsupdog wrote: post #13

[flagged]

Nah, I used various Linux distros for years and the update problems happen there all the time, I think even more TBH, and require substantial technical expertise to fix them. IMO, the only good way is "if it works, don't fix it", which means, no updates. People are seriously overhyping updates. I stopped updating all the stuff - OSes, smart locks, android apps, TVs, BP monitors - I honestly had multiple update proble…

Funny whenever people mention using Linux instead of windows there is always a user who claims Linux is broken, hard to use, while most Linux users live a peaceful and uneventful life.
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