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It’s not wrong that (for HN) “[facepalm emoji]”.length == 36

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Re: It’s not wrong that (for HN) “[facepalm emoji]”.length == 36

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"[man with blue shirt facepalm emoji]".length == 36 Checks out.

Only trouble is, he may not be wearing a blue shirt. In my fonts, it’s more teal, and maybe not a shirt. But I was definitely going to hunt for a description that made it 36 characters long.

It could be worse, in Windows 11 the hand does not seem to be from the same person than the face, see https://em-content.zobj.net/source/microsoft/407/person-face...

Re: It’s not wrong that (for HN) “[facepalm emoji]”.length == 36

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It definitely wasn't a good idea. Emojis aren't text , they don't belong in Unicode at all. It would be one thing to encode, say, Egyptian hieroglyphics. That would be legitimate. But putting emojis into Unicode was against the purpose of the standard and a huge mistake.

It's been a huge success, so hard to portray it as a mistake.

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Re: It’s not wrong that (for HN) “[facepalm emoji]”.length == 36

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I don’t want emojis in the headlines please. It makes it difficult to read and becomes an arms race for attention. Also I’m not even sure it was a good idea to put them in text. Emojis are a special case that breaks a lot. Now you have to worry about multiple colors, etc.

It definitely wasn't a good idea. Emojis aren't text , they don't belong in Unicode at all. It would be one thing to encode, say, Egyptian hieroglyphics. That would be legitimate. But putting emojis into Unicode was against the purpose of the standard and a huge mistake.

If you hate emojis blame the Japanese telecoms that created it. Unicode strives to digitally encoded all human communication and the Japanese were using pictograms for communication before Unicode.

Re: It’s not wrong that (for HN) “[facepalm emoji]”.length == 36

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Grumpy old guy: Can we just stop with new unicode characters? We don't need to be able to capture every human thought or concept in a character. Feels like the Unicode Consortium is chaired by Funes the Memorious.

The main pain for me is that most tools now sexualize the emojis: they force me to choose between :man-facepalm:, :woman-facepalm: and just :facepalm:.

For. Every. Single. Emoji.

I don't remember a case when I really wanted a sexualized version, I always want to express just an emotion. Just remove all the prefixed versions, and leave the pure one.

Re: It’s not wrong that (for HN) “[facepalm emoji]”.length == 36

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Grumpy old guy: Can we just stop with new unicode characters? We don't need to be able to capture every human thought or concept in a character. Feels like the Unicode Consortium is chaired by Funes the Memorious.

The main pain for me is that most tools now sexualize the emojis: they force me to choose between :man-facepalm:, :woman-facepalm: and just :facepalm:. For. Every. Single. Emoji. I don't remember a case when I really wanted a sexualized version, I always want to express just an emotion. Just remove all the prefixed versions, and leave the pure one.

In everyday speak "sexualize" means to make it sexy, so unless you are finding the emojis sexy you probably meant "genderize" or something alike.

Re: It’s not wrong that (for HN) “[facepalm emoji]”.length == 36

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It definitely wasn't a good idea. Emojis aren't text , they don't belong in Unicode at all. It would be one thing to encode, say, Egyptian hieroglyphics. That would be legitimate. But putting emojis into Unicode was against the purpose of the standard and a huge mistake.

Where do you draw the line? What about "fancy fonts" (foreign characters that look like latin letters)? Japanese / Chinese ideographs? Common pictograms like "stop sign?" Mathematical symbols? People made emoticons out of ~100 printable ASCII characters. With thousands of "real" Unicode symbols available, they would have gone wild anyway. As a person with accessibility needs, I'm honestly glad emojis exist. They at l…

Honestly, those many duplicates of the Latin alphabet in the Unicode tick me off way more than the emojis. Serif, sans serif (also with bold, italic, and bold italic variants as well), fraktur and bold fraktur, cursive and bold cursive, monospace, and double-struck (which could reasonably count as bold monospace TBF). And there are several more proposed but not yet accepted.

Re: It’s not wrong that (for HN) “[facepalm emoji]”.length == 36

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Grumpy old guy: Can we just stop with new unicode characters? We don't need to be able to capture every human thought or concept in a character. Feels like the Unicode Consortium is chaired by Funes the Memorious.

The main pain for me is that most tools now sexualize the emojis: they force me to choose between :man-facepalm:, :woman-facepalm: and just :facepalm:. For. Every. Single. Emoji. I don't remember a case when I really wanted a sexualized version, I always want to express just an emotion. Just remove all the prefixed versions, and leave the pure one.

Since we now have :man-pregnant: emoji, in six skin colors no less, I fully expect all the animal emojis to also be gender-ized first, and pregnant-ized later.

Re: It’s not wrong that (for HN) “[facepalm emoji]”.length == 36

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The main pain for me is that most tools now sexualize the emojis: they force me to choose between :man-facepalm:, :woman-facepalm: and just :facepalm:. For. Every. Single. Emoji. I don't remember a case when I really wanted a sexualized version, I always want to express just an emotion. Just remove all the prefixed versions, and leave the pure one.

Since we now have :man-pregnant: emoji, in six skin colors no less, I fully expect all the animal emojis to also be gender-ized first, and pregnant-ized later.

Thank you I think I will use that the next time I had a really filling meal.
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