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Re: The Minecraft Code (2024) [video]

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It's solved, full write-up here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftUnlimited/comments/1cvo5py... Tl:dr; It was a release file for their Minecon event. It was never meant to be public. Obsessing over a password protected in a company's S3 bucket is weird and crosses many limits.

>He mentioned that he does not want people to nag him about it and that “It's brought up every single year, I'm hoping this is the last ”. Finally putting an end to a 13 year old mystery.

Ouch

Re: The Minecraft Code (2024) [video]

#32

It's solved, full write-up here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftUnlimited/comments/1cvo5py... Tl:dr; It was a release file for their Minecon event. It was never meant to be public. Obsessing over a password protected in a company's S3 bucket is weird and crosses many limits.

Weird. The file was cracked in May 2024, while the password had appeared in a database leak which was added in HIBP (and thus pretty much public) back in October 2017.

Unsure why it took the community so long to crack the file.

Re: The Minecraft Code (2024) [video]

#33

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There's also the piracy communities where a majority of users believe they have some sort of inherent right to watch something merely because it exists. I don't understand where that sentiment comes from.

That should be the default assumption. It's restrictions which require justification in a liberal society, not freedoms.

Freedoms are a balancing of rights between two or more parties, and are never absolute. Complicating the matter futher: it is very unlikely that all parties are going to agree what that balancing of rights looks like. For example, someone who shares knowledge (e.g. a teacher) is going to have a very different perspective on copyright law than a person who sells knowlege (e.g. a publisher).

Re: The Minecraft Code (2024) [video]

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That should be the default assumption. It's restrictions which require justification in a liberal society, not freedoms.

"Everyone has to share everything" is a restriction, not a freedom.

Where did that come from? 'You aren't allowed to prevent others from sharing this thing' is completely different from 'you have to share this thing'. 'Everyone is allowed to share everything' is a freedom, not a restriction.

Whether or not it's a freedom people should have is a difficult question to answer because we don't know what the modern world would be like without copyright (I expect creators would try and get paid for creating more works so it might look like how nowadays some shows end in cliffhangers to give the creators some leverage over the publishers to say 'look, people want to know what comes next, maybe you should let us do another season').

Re: The Minecraft Code (2024) [video]

#35

It's solved, full write-up here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftUnlimited/comments/1cvo5py... Tl:dr; It was a release file for their Minecon event. It was never meant to be public. Obsessing over a password protected in a company's S3 bucket is weird and crosses many limits.

>is weird and crosses many limits. It's similar in format to communities that obssess over "lost media." The inability to pirate or get access to something becomes an obsession. Even if the piece of media exists in an archive somewhere, that doesn't matter to them because it's about the fact that they themselves don't have access to it that has become the obsession.

Interest in lost media is a harmless hobby, which occasionally yields positive fruit. Reddit looked for the identity of the song "Subways of your Mind" for 17 years before it was found, and I'm sure the band was pleased to learn their music had found such interest so many years later. Where's the harm? Calling it "obsession" to make it sound bad can be done to any hobby.

Re: The Minecraft Code (2024) [video]

#36

It's solved, full write-up here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftUnlimited/comments/1cvo5py... Tl:dr; It was a release file for their Minecon event. It was never meant to be public. Obsessing over a password protected in a company's S3 bucket is weird and crosses many limits.

so weird. many limits. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Thanks for posting that AACS key. It's been awhile since I've seen it running around the internet and we need more of that kind of thing, these days.

Re: The Minecraft Code (2024) [video]

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>is weird and crosses many limits. It's similar in format to communities that obssess over "lost media." The inability to pirate or get access to something becomes an obsession. Even if the piece of media exists in an archive somewhere, that doesn't matter to them because it's about the fact that they themselves don't have access to it that has become the obsession.

There's also the piracy communities where a majority of users believe they have some sort of inherent right to watch something merely because it exists. I don't understand where that sentiment comes from.

> I don't understand where that sentiment comes from.

If you actually wish to understand, I can point to a thread where this was discussed somewhat at length by others and myself not too long ago.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44907830

TL;DR:

Public domain is the natural state of information. Intellectual property is an absurd state granted monopoly on what boils down to numbers. Copyright in particular is a functionally infinite monopoly that robs us of our public domain rights. Copyright infringement is civil disobedience of unjust laws and arguably a moral imperative. Copyright enforcement requires the destruction of computer freedom as we know it as well as everything the word "hacker" stands for and therefore it must be resisted even if it destroys the copyright industry. It makes zero economic sense to charge money for information which has infinite availability, therefore society must figure out how to pay creators before the work is produced.

Re: The Minecraft Code (2024) [video]

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That should be the default assumption. It's restrictions which require justification in a liberal society, not freedoms.

Freedoms are a balancing of rights between two or more parties, and are never absolute. Complicating the matter futher: it is very unlikely that all parties are going to agree what that balancing of rights looks like. For example, someone who shares knowledge (e.g. a teacher) is going to have a very different perspective on copyright law than a person who sells knowlege (e.g. a publisher).

Yeah yeah, but the one I replied to couldn't understand why people felt entitled to see something just because it exists.

I can totally understand that, it just means they don't buy the various excuses for why they shouldn't be allowed to. I wouldn't either, in most "lost media" cases.

Re: The Minecraft Code (2024) [video]

#39
post #32

It's solved, full write-up here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftUnlimited/comments/1cvo5py... Tl:dr; It was a release file for their Minecon event. It was never meant to be public. Obsessing over a password protected in a company's S3 bucket is weird and crosses many limits.

Weird. The file was cracked in May 2024, while the password had appeared in a database leak which was added in HIBP (and thus pretty much public) back in October 2017. Unsure why it took the community so long to crack the file.

The cracking basically started the moment youtubers presented it as 'a mystery'.

Re: The Minecraft Code (2024) [video]

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post #11

It's solved, full write-up here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftUnlimited/comments/1cvo5py... Tl:dr; It was a release file for their Minecon event. It was never meant to be public. Obsessing over a password protected in a company's S3 bucket is weird and crosses many limits.

I disagree with this and what Dinnerbone says about locks. It doesn’t matter who file was intended for, it’s on the internet, if people want to use their silicon to do some mathematics to turn some numbers into some other numbers that’s their choice. It’s not equivalent to breaking into a house.

I agree it's not the equivalent, but the file could've contained things like Minecon attendees. That would still mean it's badly secured of course, but putting a huge community effort behind it and youtubers making 'Biggest Secret in Minecraft' videos about it would suddenly turn into very bad taste.
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