Is it safe to say that the Tidewave MCP server will remain FOSS, but anything Tidewave Web related (localhost:4000/tidewave) will be proprietary yet optional?
Yes!
Tidewave Web: in-browser coding agent for Rails and Phoenix
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Re: Tidewave Web: in-browser coding agent for Rails and Phoenix
#32Tidle >>>
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Re: Tidewave Web: in-browser coding agent for Rails and Phoenix
#33As someone who builds AI products and having used agentic coding tools since they came out (often with Rails projects), I don't get this. There was a similar project called Rails MCP Server which said: > "This Rails MCP Server implements the MCP specification to give AI models access to Rails projects for code analysis, exploration, and assistance." And again I don't get the value. I can see some slight benefits to h…
As you said, the best would be for you to give it a try and see the benefits in practice (if any). Beyond that, I can add to two points you brought up: First, Playwright MCP is really not enough. For example, imagine you are building a project management software and you are working on a feature for transferring tasks between projects. Testing this feature requires at least a user who is admin and at least two projec…
Playwright MCP has a mode where it can run as a Chrome Extension, which allows you to use it on your active browser session. Not sure if you can do point and click to communicate but it covers the development setup and login bit.
Re: Tidewave Web: in-browser coding agent for Rails and Phoenix
#34Look, competing against Claude Code will be hard.
yet this is Jose Valim we are talking about. creator of Elixir, Plug, contributor in Phoenix and Rails
Guy is a machine https://github.com/josevalim
I believe he will deliver, will check it time to time, interesting approach
Re: Tidewave Web: in-browser coding agent for Rails and Phoenix
#35Look, competing against Claude Code will be hard. yet this is Jose Valim we are talking about. creator of Elixir, Plug, contributor in Phoenix and Rails Guy is a machine https://github.com/josevalim I believe he will deliver, will check it time to time, interesting approach
> Guy is a machine https://github.com/josevalim
Indeed. He is a big inspiration for Brazilian nerds.
Re: Tidewave Web: in-browser coding agent for Rails and Phoenix
#36I'm super-conflicted about this.
I've been loving Tidewave MCP since the day it launched and I wish I had that for all my work. I also fight the pain of driving web browsers through the playwright MCP every day, and while it's a huge help, it's also massively slow and kills my context window.
I want these problems solved. But I want them solved in a way that isn't unique to one stack, because I don't have the luxury of sticking to my preferred Elixir stack all the time. I also want them solved in a way that doesn't force me to take a huge backward step in my AI usage by bypassing my all-you-can-eat Max subscription.
The $10 subscription isn't that expensive, but then again, since this isn't a complete solution, it's going to be on top of other subs like Cursor/Max/Phoenix.new etc etc and it becomes death by a thousand cuts.
Maybe I just need to calm down a bit and not look at it as all-or-nothing.
Like, sure, switching to this full-time would be impossible. But maybe as a tool in my toolbox, where I pay $10 and use it once-in-a-while, when I have a tricky thing to do and it's worth me burning $10-20 on API tokens just to unblock me.
I'm just concerned that software development is fast becoming pay-to-play / pay-to-win, and that can quickly lead to chickenization, where prices are carefully titrated to shift most of the value to the tool providers.
We've seen this play out in infrastructure and tooling, and most orgs now "donate" a huge chunk of their profit margins to AWS.
Re: Tidewave Web: in-browser coding agent for Rails and Phoenix
#37I would love to have a React Copilot that has access to the console, network logs, the actual html elements, computed styling etc. + my code. This would be such a game-changer. I am also convinced that monorepos will become the de facto standard, since it is way easier for LLMs to navigate / implement features across the whole stack.
We are working on React integration, first within Rails and Phoenix, but then also standalone. How are you serving/running your React apps in development?
great to hear, vite.
Re: Tidewave Web: in-browser coding agent for Rails and Phoenix
#38Hard for my team to get excited about this, because we haven't been able to use Tidewave at all, as neither it nor the Rust-based proxy support local HTTPS (which we need for our integrations with several third-party services, e.g. oauth providers).
Re: Tidewave Web: in-browser coding agent for Rails and Phoenix
#39Hard for my team to get excited about this, because we haven't been able to use Tidewave at all, as neither it nor the Rust-based proxy support local HTTPS (which we need for our integrations with several third-party services, e.g. oauth providers).
Can you ping me on Tidewave's Discord or send me an email (you can find on github.com/josevalim)? We did test it on https recently and it worked fine, so there is something more going on. I'd be glad to see this ironed out!
Re: Tidewave Web: in-browser coding agent for Rails and Phoenix
#40I'm super-conflicted about this. I've been loving Tidewave MCP since the day it launched and I wish I had that for all my work. I also fight the pain of driving web browsers through the playwright MCP every day, and while it's a huge help, it's also massively slow and kills my context window. I want these problems solved. But I want them solved in a way that isn't unique to one stack, because I don't have the luxury…
> I'm just concerned that software development is fast becoming pay-to-play / pay-to-win
The people did it to themselves.
Instead of investing time learning these things, people (like always) want to take a shortcut. Big co's are more than willing to take advantage of that laziness and will indefinitely into the future—whether diet pills, AI, or a brain chip that occasionally makes you drool but is 100x more accurate with directions than Google Maps.