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'Tradwife', 'delulu' and 'skibidi' among new words added to Cambridge Dictionary

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Re: 'Tradwife', 'delulu' and 'skibidi' among new words added to Cambridge Dictionary

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Counterpoint: Delulu made it to Hansard*, the official government record of a G20 five eyes nation. As an example, the Cambridge University Press cited a 2025 speech in parliament where Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese used the phrase "delulu with no solulu" during the last sitting week before the election. * https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Hansard

Damn, now we gotta add solulu too

Oh, shiznit.

Re: 'Tradwife', 'delulu' and 'skibidi' among new words added to Cambridge Dictionary

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Dictionaries are not specs for the English language, they are wikis. Twenty years later when “delulu” (a word popular enough that my 65 year old father regularly uses it) has fallen out of style, new readers would find it very useful to get the word defined in the dictionary.

Fair enough, I've personally looked at dictionaries along with thesauri as a spec rather than a wiki; but your anecdote makes sense.

LLMi are the new thesauri.

Re: 'Tradwife', 'delulu' and 'skibidi' among new words added to Cambridge Dictionary

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I think despite having lived through it, it's easy to miss just how transformative smartphones and social media have been to human society. There's been an absolute explosion in communication. In the early years of the internet it was pretty exciting and novel to be able to talk to people from other countries. Now it's completely unremarkable. All this of course has a huge effect on how language develops and is used,…

counterpoint: i've been on my phone/social/media/etc through the entire trend and this is the only time i've ever read the word 'delulu'; I had to look it up. Might I suggest that tribe matters a lot in this context? I don't listen to k-pop, I don't watch machinima, and I only knew 'tradwife' from the bullshit politics associated with the concept.. I think Cambridge called these too early. Maybe i'm old, and maybe i'…

counterpoint: I’m surprised “delulu” wasn’t already in OED and certainly would not consider it “cutting edge” slang in 2025 (quite the opposite). Just because one person hasn’t heard certain words doesn’t mean they don’t belong in what is meant to be a comprehensive dictionary. In fact, if you needed to know the meaning of every word that is added to the dictionary, then you would have no need for a dictionary! Never having heard a word has nothing to do with whether OED “called it too early.” To make that judgment one would want to find external evidence.

Re: 'Tradwife', 'delulu' and 'skibidi' among new words added to Cambridge Dictionary

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Is this "progress" or are we glorifying moving backwards by including this sort of language just to be "in"? I really don't know how to feel about this, maybe it's my education making me bigoted, looking down upon what's clearly ephemeral; slang words like these come and go with time, and I think the timeframe for words to be included in the dictionary has greatly reduced. Almost no one apart from a very small, termi…

Most English dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive. Odds are more people use these words than use a dictionary on a regular basis, and including them doesn't diminish the credibility of dictionaries unless you think their purpose is to curb the use of language instead of documenting it. Dictionaries include words labeled obsolete or archaic, informal and slang meanings, and even offensive and disparaging words without "glorifying" their use.

Re: 'Tradwife', 'delulu' and 'skibidi' among new words added to Cambridge Dictionary

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There is an article of this kind every year where we all get a chance to be up in arms about the fact that language and culture is ever-shifting and changing and not something static.

The comments here really remind of the usual debate around Wikipedia. Some people really want to see these tools as guardian and judge determining what should be worthy of inclusion rather than tools describing a reality external to them. Maybe old age really is a shipwreck after all.

Wikipedia is a guardian and judge, whether it wants to be or not. Look how quickly politicians changed their policies after Wikipedia stopped bothsidesing the Gaza war. There were endless arguments on talk pages about how it shouldn't be called the "Israel-Hamas war" any more, since it's converted into a genocide of one side only. For more than a year. And then suddenly, once they agreed to change it, within only a couple of months, politicians across the USA and Europe start sanctioning Israel for committing a genocide. The same politicians who all the rest of the time said there was no genocide. Wikipedia is more powerful than it thinks.

Re: 'Tradwife', 'delulu' and 'skibidi' among new words added to Cambridge Dictionary

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post #20

Is this "progress" or are we glorifying moving backwards by including this sort of language just to be "in"? I really don't know how to feel about this, maybe it's my education making me bigoted, looking down upon what's clearly ephemeral; slang words like these come and go with time, and I think the timeframe for words to be included in the dictionary has greatly reduced. Almost no one apart from a very small, termi…

It’s 2025 and everyone is terminally online, this is not a small subset of people. There is also a generation divide here.

Re: 'Tradwife', 'delulu' and 'skibidi' among new words added to Cambridge Dictionary

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The comments here really remind of the usual debate around Wikipedia. Some people really want to see these tools as guardian and judge determining what should be worthy of inclusion rather than tools describing a reality external to them. Maybe old age really is a shipwreck after all.

Wikipedia is a guardian and judge, whether it wants to be or not. Look how quickly politicians changed their policies after Wikipedia stopped bothsidesing the Gaza war. There were endless arguments on talk pages about how it shouldn't be called the "Israel-Hamas war" any more, since it's converted into a genocide of one side only. For more than a year. And then suddenly, once they agreed to change it, within only a c…

Are you sure you’re not mixing up cause and effect here?
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