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Apple rumored to be working on a smart home operating system version

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Re: Apple rumored to be working on a smart home operating system version

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Post by qwertytyyuu »

api wrote: post #26
FireBeyond wrote: post #20

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The problem isn't that Vision Pro is a bad product. The problem is that it's built for a bad thesis. People don't want VR/AR goggles very much, or at least not many people do, and I think eventually we will stop trying to make this happen. VR/AR has niche applications: gaming, industrial and military AR uses, assistive uses with people who are mobility challenged, education. These are niche uses. Even gaming is a nic…

At in terms of glasses would be quite different to goggles, a significant percentage of the population already need eyesight correction, having glasses with a hud getting good adoption doesn’t seem like a stretch

Re: Apple rumored to be working on a smart home operating system version

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Post by ajkjk »

joshmarinacci wrote: post #3

In one sense this is logical. A HomePod with a screen and an iOS variant. On the other hand, what is this for? What uses do these smart home devices serve? We are a decade plus into the “smart home” era and most of these things are more trouble than they are worth.

I feel like Apple has historical been good at taking things that are "good ideas but everyone is doing the execution so badly they haven't really caught on" into the "everyone uses it all the time" category (eg ipod, iphone, airpods). Certainly smart home stuff is kinda in the first category right now, like you said. Perhaps they believe they can give them the same treatment? It seems kinda plausible to me: there's no reason smart home stuff couldn't be a really good, seamless experience.

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Post by jayd16 »

joshmarinacci wrote: post #3

In one sense this is logical. A HomePod with a screen and an iOS variant. On the other hand, what is this for? What uses do these smart home devices serve? We are a decade plus into the “smart home” era and most of these things are more trouble than they are worth.

Multi-user support is possibly something deserving of a larger rewrite to iOS. It's been a pretty big assumption in all of the devices outside Macos, right?

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ranger_danger wrote: post #27
jcelerier wrote: post #11

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Since when are sales in any way correlated to quality of the product?

I think since forever... https://frederik.today/blog/quality-vs-sales-affect-conversi... https://avenuetalentpartners.com/2017/12/05/quality-always-w... https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbescommunicationscouncil/... Not saying it is a direct 1:1 correlation, but I think it's fair to say there is a correlation. And perhaps your definition of quality differs from others.

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Post by leptons »

ranger_danger wrote: post #5
dangus wrote: post #2

> For example, he expects there to be a hexagonal grid of apps, just like on the Apple Watch. One of the worst UI experiences out there.

28 million watch sales may suggest that not everyone shares your opinion.

They sold 28 million? That's only 0.34% of all people, so I'm not sure that's the wild success you think it is.

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bnchrch wrote: post #29

In the past I used to get excited for any rum or, teaser or upcoming release. However, in this apple era I can’t. Why? Because I can’t count on them to deliver. The M series chips, and air pods have been a smashing success. But the fact that Siri is still behind even pre LLM state of the art is abominable. Apple vision was innovative. But the forward facing display, and titanium parts that bloated weight and cost was…

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Post by gnerd00 »

AI-centric phone-like OS? .. hard pass. California gave rise to so many inspired and marvelous technology in the past, but this always-on Big Brother world built on massive pools of cash.. n-o spells no. I do not understand how people accept these consumer devices.

Re: Apple rumored to be working on a smart home operating system version

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Post by altairprime »

easton wrote: post #15
amelius wrote: post #4

So is this about the kernel, or just the GUI layer? Or somewhere in between?

Probably mostly the GUI and some different set of system services / APIs. I think all of the OSes are the same XNU/Darwin base and then diverge dramatically in user space.

This is true to the best of our knowledge for their GUI-less OSes running on the HDMI adapter, T2 chips, and display chips as well.

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bnchrch wrote: post #29

In the past I used to get excited for any rum or, teaser or upcoming release. However, in this apple era I can’t. Why? Because I can’t count on them to deliver. The M series chips, and air pods have been a smashing success. But the fact that Siri is still behind even pre LLM state of the art is abominable. Apple vision was innovative. But the forward facing display, and titanium parts that bloated weight and cost was…

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