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What's your take on the article saying that D.C.'s crime rate is at a 30 year low? Do you feel that things in big cities are so bad that an overreach of powers is justified in an attempt to fix it?
People in this thread are focusing on change in crime instead of the total rate of crime. The bottom line is that total crime in Washington DC is one of the highest among states and cities and is a clear outlier.
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What's your take on the article saying that D.C.'s crime rate is at a 30 year low? Do you feel that things in big cities are so bad that an overreach of powers is justified in an attempt to fix it?
People in this thread are focusing on change in crime instead of the total rate of crime. The bottom line is that total crime in Washington DC is one of the highest among states and cities and is a clear outlier.
Also worthy of note is FBI's Caution Against (Crime) Ranking:
> Each year when Crime in the United States is published, many entities—news media, tourism agencies, and other groups with an interest in crime in our Nation—use reported figures to compile rankings of cities and counties. These rankings, however, are merely a quick choice made by the data user; they provide no insight into the many variables that mold the crime in a particular town, city, county, state, region, or other jurisdiction. Consequently, these rankings lead to simplistic and/or incomplete analyses that often create misleading perceptions adversely affecting cities and counties, along with their residents.
Via: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-...
0: "For the 2019 population estimates used in this table, the FBI computed individual rates of growth from one year to the next for every city/town and county using 2010 decennial population counts and 2011 through 2018 population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau. Each agency’s rates of growth were averaged; that average was then applied and added to its 2018 Census population estimate to derive the agency’s 2019 population estimate"
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Let me ask a different question. Do you think violent crime is on the rise?
Do you think violent crime is on the rise? Nobody knows the real answer to this. Rather cities have become violent over time and criminals are released shortly after their violent crimes. The general public is well aware of this and why there is a non-partisan rise in home and self defense purchases.
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What's your take on the article saying that D.C.'s crime rate is at a 30 year low? Do you feel that things in big cities are so bad that an overreach of powers is justified in an attempt to fix it?
Is crime down because they are safer or because police have been told to stand down or see no point if the perp walks free an hour later? Bottom line, I am skeptical. Cities all over have de-criminalized crime, which makes the statistics untrustworthy.
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People in this thread are focusing on change in crime instead of the total rate of crime. The bottom line is that total crime in Washington DC is one of the highest among states and cities and is a clear outlier.
It's 19th of 83 (just barely making it inside the top quarter percentile) large population centers in the US, with 5,223 per 100,000 (~0.052 Per Capita) people Reported Incidents of Crime (all types) if using the adjusted[0] crime rate. If you use the data unadjusted for differences in population reporting data, it drops to 30th of 100. Via: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b... which is pri…
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Is crime down because they are safer or because police have been told to stand down or see no point if the perp walks free an hour later? Bottom line, I am skeptical. Cities all over have de-criminalized crime, which makes the statistics untrustworthy.
Your argument is unfalsifiable, you don't believe the data, you just have a feeling, it's impossible to falsify your feelings...
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So you think it's justified?
I don't think I would use the word justified. I would say as someone that's lived in a high crime area that I'm in support of trying to reduce crime rates in areas with high crime rates. I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to reduce the crime. Trump lives in DC. He works and his employees work in the DC area. They want to take action to reduce crime. I spent some of my life watching people on TV demandin…
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I don't think I would use the word justified. I would say as someone that's lived in a high crime area that I'm in support of trying to reduce crime rates in areas with high crime rates. I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to reduce the crime. Trump lives in DC. He works and his employees work in the DC area. They want to take action to reduce crime. I spent some of my life watching people on TV demandin…
Better question: is there not a better way to accomplish this without the national fucking guard ?
There's no federal police force (other than maybe the coast guard and ICE neither of which really have jurisdiction here) so yeah the national guard is the least heavy alternative.
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I think that crime is not recognized or tracked in some cities. This is a problem in the USA. Canada is not having these issues in big cities as they have zero tolerance for violent crime.
Gun control is the main reason we have less violent crime in Canada. There is still violent crime here though, it's not a safe wonderland. There is often impunity given to certain people for serious but nonviolent crime like identity theft and selling schedule 1 narcotics (the most illegal kind of drug in Canada). They simply keep what they steal or the profit and are allowed to carry on even if there is clear proof…
If you look at the US gun violence data the places that have gun control laws tend to be the ones with the highest rates of gun violence. It's cliche but it's true: guns don't kill people, people kill people. You need to ban violent people not guns.
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Better question: is there not a better way to accomplish this without the national fucking guard ?
Probably not without cooperation from municipal authorities which doesn't appear to be on the table. There's no federal police force (other than maybe the coast guard and ICE neither of which really have jurisdiction here) so yeah the national guard is the least heavy alternative.