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Wow. Illumos / Solaris is still kicking, eh? Really too bad Solaris didn’t stick around and was so horribly mismanaged by Sun. Solaris and Vax/VMS is where I started my career decades ago, and still brings back memories.
Sadly it is still years away on ARM and x86, Linux and BSD systems.
I don't know about Illumos but setting up a Solaris 10 machine to provide block devices through multi path iSCSI was a breeze with all the tooling it had. No config files needed it was all command line. It was for a university lab and it was the only ever contact I had with Solaris 10 and later versions or forks. I was mildly interested once since it had KVM but support was Intel only so that kept me away. I remember…
All I could explain the OS as, was as a swamp. It's wants to work but doesn't work as it should and you always were knee-deep in sludge too.
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Maybe the Perifractic equivalent of the Sun fanworld can buy the Solaris trademark and rename it!
Solaris is still developed and sold by Oracle, and expected to be supported for a very long time. The current version, Solaris 11.4, is planned to be supported until 2037 at the earliest. The previous major version, Solaris 10, was released in 2005 and is supported until 2027. So they are unlikely to sell the trademark any time soon.
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Solaris is still developed and sold by Oracle, and expected to be supported for a very long time. The current version, Solaris 11.4, is planned to be supported until 2037 at the earliest. The previous major version, Solaris 10, was released in 2005 and is supported until 2027. So they are unlikely to sell the trademark any time soon.
Who are still using Solaris though? And I say that as a previous SunOS and Solaris user for a couple of decades. Great technology. That's where I first got to play with dtrace and containers/zones.
Times I've heard it's time to migrate from with no one willing too and so the swamp just becomes swampier.
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From: https://docs.openindiana.org/misc/openindiana/#what-is-the-o... > Why is it called OpenIndiana? > OpenIndiana obtains its name from Project Indiana, an open source effort by Sun Microsystems (now Oracle Corporation) to produce OpenSolaris, a community developed Unix-like distribution based on Sun Solaris. Project Indiana was led by Ian Murdock, founder of the Debian Linux Distribution. (I never understood the n…
Not sure if Ian Murdock had a say in the naming but his family was from Indiana.
Wow. Illumos / Solaris is still kicking, eh? Really too bad Solaris didn’t stick around and was so horribly mismanaged by Sun. Solaris and Vax/VMS is where I started my career decades ago, and still brings back memories.
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Not sure if Ian Murdock had a say in the naming but his family was from Indiana.
> OpenIndiana takes its name from Project Indiana, the internal codename for OpenSolaris at Sun Microsystems before Oracle’s acquisition of Sun in 2010. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenIndiana#History
Solaris to Linux Migration 2017 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15177118 - Sept 2017 (129 comments)
In the BSD land, things aren't that much better, either.
Netgate, the makers of pfSense, are now using Ubuntu for Netgate TNSR product.
iXsystems, the descendants of BSDi, have moved FreeNAS / TrueNAS from FreeBSD to Linux. They're basically d/b/a TrueNAS now, and it's all Linux now.
You used to need Solaris or illimos or FreeBSD for production-ready ZFS support, but now OpenZFS is provided exclusively for Linux and FreeBSD; note that Linux already comes first in the title; it would seem like it's only a matter of time before FreeBSD support may follow Solaris and illumos.
Joyent, the commercial shepherds of OpenSolaris descendants like SmartOS, were acquired by Samsung, but the entire Solaris part of the equation, including Triton DataCenter orchestration, were subsequently offloaded to mnx.io, a tiny cloud hosting provider based out of a small town in Michigan. (Frankly, without Triton, I don't even understand what remains of Joyent at Samsung? Just the physical servers with the third-party software? It's basically just a name for Samsung's data centre ops and their presumably-Linux-based Private Cloud?)
Apple used to use NetBSD for AirPort WiFi routers, but the whole router line has been discontinued. (I thought Apple actually already dropped NetBSD but couldn't find a source right now.)
Last not least, DJB used to run OpenBSD, then FreeBSD, but then switched to Ubuntu after possibly being annoyed that too many steps were required to make FreeBSD work as a desktop: http://cr.yp.to/unix/feedme.html (my fav is that in FreeBSD the audio doesn't work unless you recompile the kernel). I think he initially may have abandoned OpenBSD because it was crashing too often for undetermined causes: http://cr.yp.to/serverinfo.html.
FreeBSD is still used by Netflix OpenConnect Appliance, which is a huge win, but feels like too many eggs in a single basket:
Serving Netflix Video at 400Gb/s on FreeBSD [pdf] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28584738 - Sept 2021 (293 comments)
But that's about it. Linux has won.
Wow. Illumos / Solaris is still kicking, eh? Really too bad Solaris didn’t stick around and was so horribly mismanaged by Sun. Solaris and Vax/VMS is where I started my career decades ago, and still brings back memories.
I'm really disappointed that Solaris picked a "let's screw Linux" license, relegating some otherwise interesting technologies to only run on Solaris, on permissive OSes like BSD, and on systems that don't care about license compliance.