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So what's the difference between plotted and printed artwork?

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Re: So what's the difference between plotted and printed artwork?

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Yes, giclee printers typically have ten or more inks, and Risograph printers offer a wider but limited set of options.

"gicleé" is just a neologism that means "I will charge my customers more to recoup the capital cost of this large inkjet printer" and doesn't really have any inherent meaning as to the number of inks.

Yes. With a limited carve-out for anyone still running an Iris, who originated that neologism in a much more sceptical market.

Re: So what's the difference between plotted and printed artwork?

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I have a really cheap one that seems to apply uneven pressure across the bed. Has anyone worked with any sort of spring loaded holder that could help that sort of problem?

I’m having the same issue. Which model do you have?

Mine is an ultra cheap “hand writing” machine off taobao. There’s not really any specific model since there’s a million clones of them floating around

I’ll probably have to make the holder myself but good to know others have had the same problem!

Re: So what's the difference between plotted and printed artwork?

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>The keyword here, though, is reproduction. A printer isn't capable of mixing pigments the same way an artist mixes paints on a palette.

This is kinda no longer true. Computer tools such as “krita” (open source) do an exceptional job emulating paints and brushes. A lot of professional illustrations now days are done digitally and printed. “Art” less so but the tablets keep getting better.

https://krita.org/en/

As someone who was kinda adept at making black and white prints from negatives, I kind of miss some of the old tech (making prints was a little magical). But digital / ink jet can get you 90% of the darkroom much easier and has some serious advantages.

I do applaud the effort and the fun factor here is real. Those pen plotters are neat and enough different to make this an interesting niche.

Re: So what's the difference between plotted and printed artwork?

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I still remember the old "CreataCard" machines. They were a lot of fun to use and watch. (They very much understood and leveraged the fact that the customer purchasing a greeting card is not the recipient; making it fun to watch and fun to give was a major selling point.)

Re: So what's the difference between plotted and printed artwork?

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post #27

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Seconded. My Silhouette is great. I even emailed them and received a copy of the GPGL docs one time. It wasn't full on support, but they were willing to give me a start. The first thing I programmed was having it draw a hilbert curve and it worked great!

Ooh, did you do a blog article about it perhaps? I think I read it, if so.

It's 14 years old at this point, but here you go: https://www.ohthehugemanatee.net/2011/07/gpgl-reference-cour...

Re: So what's the difference between plotted and printed artwork?

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I always thought of plotters as legacy tech, but considering the variety of marking tools you can attach to the head, I'm wondering if I should get one. Does anyone know of an inexpensive plotter you can buy or build?

I thought “evil mad science” had an inexpensive one. Including one the would pen plot on eggs. (Not available)

https://shop.evilmadscientist.com/productsmenu/171

And a 2d minimalist plotter.

https://shop.evilmadscientist.com/productsmenu/846

They seem to have been bought. Those pro plotters look nice though quite pricy. The page still has good resources.

https://www.evilmadscientist.com/

Re: So what's the difference between plotted and printed artwork?

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I always thought of plotters as legacy tech, but considering the variety of marking tools you can attach to the head, I'm wondering if I should get one. Does anyone know of an inexpensive plotter you can buy or build?

A lot of people design and build their own custom pen plotters, with varying level of precision:

https://note.com/penplotter/n/n4fdf6959738a

The page is in Japanese, but you can get a feel of things through the embedded videos. One of them links to this instructables page in English:

https://www.instructables.com/Mini-Plotter-V2/

Re: So what's the difference between plotted and printed artwork?

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For whit inks how about uv printers?

For plotters, just get a pen with UV ink. Is a UV printer something more fancy?

Those are two completely different things. Nothing to do with UV fluorescent inks. UV printers use special inks which are cured by UV light instead of relying on solvent evaporation like most inks. A bit similar to UV cured resins used by SLA printers or UV cured glues. This makes it easier to print on various materials like metal, glass, and ceramics. UV printing can be done in multiple layers to add 3d texture or using bottom white layer as primer thus providing better colors regardless of base material color.

Re: So what's the difference between plotted and printed artwork?

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I always thought of plotters as legacy tech, but considering the variety of marking tools you can attach to the head, I'm wondering if I should get one. Does anyone know of an inexpensive plotter you can buy or build?

Not legacy at all. Think construction/cabinetry plans etc. Plotters are not inexpensive unless you build one.

Re: So what's the difference between plotted and printed artwork?

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ooh, did you do a blog article about it perhaps? I think I read it, if so.

It's 14 years old at this point, but here you go: https://www.ohthehugemanatee.net/2011/07/gpgl-reference-cour...

Yep that’s the one. Thank you for it. :-)
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