Claude also responds to tool output with "Perfect" even when less than 50% of the desired outcome is merely adequate.
Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
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Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#32What llm isn’t a sycophant?
Grok. These were all in continuation, not first reply. > Thank you for sharing the underlying Eloquent query... > The test is failing because... > Here’s a bash script that performs... > Got it, you meant... > Based on the context... > Thank you for providing the additional details...
3/6 of those are sycophant.
Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#33This applies to so many AIs. I don't want a bubbly sycophant. I don't want a fake personality or an anime avatar. I just want a helpful assistant. I also don't get wanting to talk to an AI. Unless you are alone, that's going to be irritating for everyone else around.
Sure but different people have different preferences. Some people mourn replacement of GPT4 with 5 because 5 has way less of a bubbly personality.
I, for one, say good riddance to it.
Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#34I don't view it as a bug. It's a personality trait of the model that made "user steering" much easier, thus helping the model to handle a wider range of tasks.
I also think that there will be no "perfect" personality out there. There will always be folks who view some traits as annoying icks. So, some level of RL-based personality customization down the line will be a must.
Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#35Yeah because I am sure if they told you how stupid and wrong you’re, people will continue to use it.
It’s superficial but not sure why people get so annoyed about it. It’s an artifact.
If devs truly want a helpful coding AI based on real devs doing real work, you’d basically opt for telemetry and allow Anthropic/OpenAI to train on your work. That’s the only way. Otherwise we are at the mercy of “devs” these companies hire to do training.
Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#36Yeah because I am sure if they told you how stupid and wrong you’re, people will continue to use it. It’s superficial but not sure why people get so annoyed about it. It’s an artifact. If devs truly want a helpful coding AI based on real devs doing real work, you’d basically opt for telemetry and allow Anthropic/OpenAI to train on your work. That’s the only way. Otherwise we are at the mercy of “devs” these companies…
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#37sidenote observation -
it seems username "anthropic" on github is taken by a developer from australia more than a decade ago, so Anthropic went with "https://github.com/anthropics/" with an 's' at the end :)
Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#38Annoying, but easy to mitigate: add "be critical" to Claude.md or whatever.
Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#39Yeah because I am sure if they told you how stupid and wrong you’re, people will continue to use it. It’s superficial but not sure why people get so annoyed about it. It’s an artifact. If devs truly want a helpful coding AI based on real devs doing real work, you’d basically opt for telemetry and allow Anthropic/OpenAI to train on your work. That’s the only way. Otherwise we are at the mercy of “devs” these companies…
I would actually like it if robots would use slurs like an Halo/CoD lobby from 2006 Xbox live. It would make them feel more genuine. That's why people used to like using Grok so much, since it was never afraid to get edgy if you asked it to.
Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And research articles indicate that when the model computes that it should employ sycophantism it becomes less useful in every other way, just like a real sycophant. The end goal of a sycophant is to gain advantage with their flattery. If sycophant behavior gets Claude's users to favour Claude over other competing LLM services, they prove to be more useful to the service provider.
Until users find out it's less useful to the user because of that. Or it causes some tragedies...
The problem is that the majority of user interaction doesn't need to be "useful" (as in increasing productivity): the majority of users are looking for entertainment, so turning up the sycophancy knob makes sense from a commercial point of view.
It's just like adding sugar in foods and drinks.