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Looks interesting if niche. Somebody should take all the documentation and create gamification experience around it. With levels and all. Maybe even as a submission to the currently running Gamification Coursera class.... I can just imagine: Level one: you managed to download all sources. All the way to "You are the master, you can now serve your own ??? (ruby on rails app?) from your own server". Then build a commun…
Looks interesting if niche. Somebody should take all the documentation and create gamification experience around it. With levels and all. Maybe even as a submission to the currently running Gamification Coursera class.... I can just imagine: Level one: you managed to download all sources. All the way to "You are the master, you can now serve your own ??? (ruby on rails app?) from your own server". Then build a commun…
Hate to post a comment just to be negative, but, I seriously can't believe this has appeared on the front page of a site like HN. "Welcome to"?. LFS is so old that I would assume any self proclaimed geek/hacker would've already been aware of it. It has existed for over ten years.
> It has existed for over ten years. So? I haven't heard of it before, and I doubt if many of my friends have either. Programming landscape is very big now and everyone has a finite amount of time for exploring it. I could use your argument to whine about how so many self proclaimed geeks/hackers don't know about Lisp and keep reinventing wheels all the time.
Hate to post a comment just to be negative, but, I seriously can't believe this has appeared on the front page of a site like HN. "Welcome to"?. LFS is so old that I would assume any self proclaimed geek/hacker would've already been aware of it. It has existed for over ten years.
> It has existed for over ten years. So? I haven't heard of it before, and I doubt if many of my friends have either. Programming landscape is very big now and everyone has a finite amount of time for exploring it. I could use your argument to whine about how so many self proclaimed geeks/hackers don't know about Lisp and keep reinventing wheels all the time.
Hate to post a comment just to be negative, but, I seriously can't believe this has appeared on the front page of a site like HN. "Welcome to"?. LFS is so old that I would assume any self proclaimed geek/hacker would've already been aware of it. It has existed for over ten years.
How long would it take a noob to do this? hours? days? years?
It'd probably take about a week for a noob to get a reasonable desktop up and running with LFS or Gentoo, but that week will be some of the most valuable education about software build processes and operating system design one can find.
I've built a few LFSs and Gentoo countless times, it was a great learning experience and I learned a lot of command line mad skillz that way. However I wouldn't run a server using it.
I’m being cynical but my experience of building from source even with automated tools is one where things going wrong and being very difficult to resolve: there’s a cyclic dependency here; this things compiles but won’t link; this thing just segfaults; you need a new version of X to build Y but Z, which is a part of X, needs an old version of Y; I know you wanted to run the latest version of X but author of Y didn’t…
I built an LFS system when it came out years ago and it was a good learning exercise. That's the cool thing here. I wouldn't consider using the system from day to day though.
I agree with your sentiment though. A recent attempt to get sstp-client and NetworkManager-sstp working on CentOS 6.3 resulted in a long stompy walk when I couldn't get it to build without breaking the distribution due to dependency hell. I just chucked Ubuntu on the box in the end and used the vendor provided deb packages. Was much easier :-)
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Gentoo is indeed a very nice option in between a bog-standard distro like Ubuntu and LFS. It's easy to customize and tinker with, but still usable on a day-to-day basis. If you want something in between Gentoo and LFS, you could consider OpenEmbedded, which is a distro builder primarily intended for specialized embedded/low-power hardware, but can easily be repurposed and extended to also build your own x86 desktop d…
I ran Archlinux for over 6 months. Gentoo is more hacking. I am back to "bog-standard" distro Ubuntu because once you have learned basics you just need a complete user experience and stop wasting time on trivial things.
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> It has existed for over ten years. So? I haven't heard of it before, and I doubt if many of my friends have either. Programming landscape is very big now and everyone has a finite amount of time for exploring it. I could use your argument to whine about how so many self proclaimed geeks/hackers don't know about Lisp and keep reinventing wheels all the time.
The "Welcome to" is still left without explanation.