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Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by _mlbt »

pjc50 wrote: post #17
Manuel_D wrote: post #5

Courts have previously held that heuristics based determinations are not sufficient to serve as probable cause. E.g. "predictive policing" technologies can be used for e.g. scheduling officers to different areas, but aren't valid to conduct a search. If this feature is used to make an arrest, there's a good chance the case would be thrown out.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/emiliano-s-agents-left-beh... ICE are to a large extent above the law. Their entire purpose is to snatch people and move them to locations where they can be denied legal redress. A couple of high profile cases have only got redress due to very dedicated intervention by congresspeople, which does not scale. I think people need to start reckoning with the underlying problem, which is t…

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Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by delfinom »

garbagewoman wrote: post #7
Manuel_D wrote: post #5

Courts have previously held that heuristics based determinations are not sufficient to serve as probable cause. E.g. "predictive policing" technologies can be used for e.g. scheduling officers to different areas, but aren't valid to conduct a search. If this feature is used to make an arrest, there's a good chance the case would be thrown out.

Why would the police even inform you that flock was used?

Discovery applies even in cases where the state is prosecuting you.

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by freilanzer »

_mlbt wrote: post #30
netsharc wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Geez, East Germany's State Security, but with supremely better surveillance tech, and AI. Curious how "Homeland Security" and "State Security" are equivalent names. Looking forward to a "Report suspicious neighbors"-program next. Your neighbor made fun of Trump? Report this unamerican activity to Kristi Noem!

Minnesota implemented this during COVID… https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/coronavirus-in-minnes... I’m sure there are also ways to anonymously report illegal immigrants to ICE as well. People are still free to criticize Trump all they want. The First Amendment is pretty clear on this.

> People are still free to criticize Trump all they want. The First Amendment is pretty clear on this.

In theory.

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by _mlbt »

freilanzer wrote: post #33
_mlbt wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Minnesota implemented this during COVID… https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/coronavirus-in-minnes... I’m sure there are also ways to anonymously report illegal immigrants to ICE as well. People are still free to criticize Trump all they want. The First Amendment is pretty clear on this.

> People are still free to criticize Trump all they want. The First Amendment is pretty clear on this. In theory.

No, in actuality. People criticize Trump daily without fear of repercussions.

He's not a king or a dictator. Much of his agenda is being put in check by the other two branches of government.

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by etiennebausson »

saubeidl wrote: post #14

Big Tech is building a dystopia and we all here are complicit. Become aware of the consequences of your actions and try to minimize the harm.

Certainly not all no, maybe not even most.

I do not feel guilty of the unethical actions of others.

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by saubeidl »

etiennebausson wrote: post #35
saubeidl wrote: post #14

Big Tech is building a dystopia and we all here are complicit. Become aware of the consequences of your actions and try to minimize the harm.

Certainly not all no, maybe not even most. I do not feel guilty of the unethical actions of others.

May I ask what you do that you consider yourself not complicit?

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by troyvit »

_mlbt wrote: post #30
netsharc wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Geez, East Germany's State Security, but with supremely better surveillance tech, and AI. Curious how "Homeland Security" and "State Security" are equivalent names. Looking forward to a "Report suspicious neighbors"-program next. Your neighbor made fun of Trump? Report this unamerican activity to Kristi Noem!

Minnesota implemented this during COVID… https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/coronavirus-in-minnes... I’m sure there are also ways to anonymously report illegal immigrants to ICE as well. People are still free to criticize Trump all they want. The First Amendment is pretty clear on this.

> People are still free to criticize Trump all they want. The First Amendment is pretty clear on this.

I guess it depends on how you define "person."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activist_deportations_in_the_s...

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/19/trump-deportation-g...

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/09/nyregion/ice-arrests-pale...

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/rumeysa-ozturk-tufts...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oRiQz7mOY6A

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by troyvit »

chung8123 wrote: post #2

Are there IR lights you can put on your license plate to block cameras from taking pictures of it?

What would happen if you stenciled paintings of license-plate-like patterns all over the back of your car? Then you're not tampering with the plate itself, but I guess you end up with a goofy-lookin' car.

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by asacrowflies »

_mlbt wrote: post #34
freilanzer wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People are still free to criticize Trump all they want. The First Amendment is pretty clear on this. In theory.

No, in actuality. People criticize Trump daily without fear of repercussions. He's not a king or a dictator. Much of his agenda is being put in check by the other two branches of government.

Are you high lol

Re: Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Patterns Are "Suspicious"

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Post by asacrowflies »

_mlbt wrote: post #31
pjc50 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/emiliano-s-agents-left-beh... ICE are to a large extent above the law. Their entire purpose is to snatch people and move them to locations where they can be denied legal redress. A couple of high profile cases have only got redress due to very dedicated intervention by congresspeople, which does not scale. I think people need to start reckoning with the underlying problem, which is t…

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