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Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

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I have been tracking Trixie on my Resolve workstation for the past couple of months. The only hiccup was that the latest kernel did not support the ondemand governor, so I had to build a custom kernel to fix that.

Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

#35

Debian 13 trixie includes numerous updated software packages (over 63% of all packages from the previous release) I’m not familiar with the metric definition they use, but I’d be worried if close to 100% of the packages they included in bookworm hadn’t been updated in the roughly 2 years between releases. I use Debian for most of my servers, so I’m sure there is a valid explanation of that phrase.

> I’d be worried if close to 100% of the packages they included in bookworm hadn’t been updated in the roughly 2 years between releases.

Code doesn't "go bad" and not everything is affected by ecosystem churn and CVEs.

An established package not having updates for 2y is not in and of itself problematic.

Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation needed. I honestly do not know what you are referring to. Even if I had to take your "sexual predator" at face value, I would still have to balance that against the good stable reliable distro they have been done for so many years.

I too had no idea what he’s talking about, so I did some digging. So, an open-source contributor who works for Canonical on Ubuntu gave a talk at Debconf. He is a convicted and admitted sexual predator who served time in prison for his crimes. This all is pretty well-documented. But… then what? He did the time for his crimes. He’s on the national sex offender registry. What now? Should he be unemployable? Should his…

He was also a minor when the convicted offences took place. Important point because Lunduke acolytes always go everywhere & make it sound as if he was a grown man who molested children "thousands of times". Apparently what is closer to the facts is that he was himself a minor when he started SA his siblings, which was ignored by their parents. He was convicted later in life as an adult & as noted, served his time.

Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

#38

Debian 13 trixie includes numerous updated software packages (over 63% of all packages from the previous release) I’m not familiar with the metric definition they use, but I’d be worried if close to 100% of the packages they included in bookworm hadn’t been updated in the roughly 2 years between releases. I use Debian for most of my servers, so I’m sure there is a valid explanation of that phrase.

I don't know why you think it would be different. Are you concerned about security updates? That's not part of the metric, as far as I can see.

And even if it was?

If you look at the number of packages in Debian, only a small portion have CVEs. There are nearly 30k package sources, and an output of 60k binary packages.

Yet we only get a few security updates weekly.

Another example? Both trixie and bookworm use the same firefox ESR (extended release) version. Both will get updated when firefox forces everyone to the next ESR.

Beyond that, some packages are docs. Some are 'glue' packages, eg scripts to manage Debian. These may not change between releases.

Lastly, Debian actually maintains an enormous number of upstream orphaned packages. In those cases, the version number is the same (sometimes), but with security updates slapped on if required.

From my perspective, outside of timely and quick security updates, I have zero desire for a lot of churn. Why would I? Churn means work. Churn means changed stability.

We get plenty of fun and churn from kernel, and driver related changes (X, Wayland, audio/nic, etc), and desktop apps. And of course from anything running forward, with scissors, like network connected joy.

Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”

#39
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Biggest change for me is /tmp behavior. In Debian 13 /tmp become RAM-disk by default (instead of files on the file system) and uses up to 50% of available ram. But as expected of Debian the release notes included an easy fix to restore normal /tmp behavior for people and applications that place many small or large files there. https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/release-notes/issues.... >"You can return to /tmp be…

Infinite scroll length on terminals can chew through /tmp, and systems misbehave strangely when they're out of /tmp.
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