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Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

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Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

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I'm surprised it didn't mention the time to get between NYC and DC. Anyone know?

I don't know if these trains are supposed to be much faster than the existing train sets, which do it in like 3 hours? (My understanding is that the speed limits is more to do with the railways than the actual trainsets, but maybe that's wrong. Apparently they go 160mph at max vs 150 on the old ones, but I don't know if that speed can be sustained between DC and NYC)

Limited by railways and number of stops too. On a 500km trip in France (Paris - Strasbourg) you can save 15min by taking the train with no stops : 1h46 vs 2h and 2 stops

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

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> In the coming months, Amtrak will be operating both the current Acela equipment and the NextGen Acela trains as the new trains transition into the fleet. I do hope that at the time of booking they make it clear which Acela it is. Airlines do this: they usually mention the type of plane while booking. I might just do a trip on the new Acela to experience the train.

Haha. We're talking about the same Amtrak that tries to hide that you are booking a trip on a bus.

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

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Love how they mention they’re built in the US by union workers…likely at 10x the cost of making them elsewhere. Modern day unions in the US is not what you think they are. They are the reason why we can’t have fast infrastructure upgrades. People in Japan/Korea/EU figured it out why can’t we have them here in the US?

Japan and the EU, and to a lesser extent, Korea, have actual social safety nets and their unions have the protection and support of the State.

In the USA the Union might be the only reason a certain profession has a healthcare plan at all. The relationship is so combative, unions basically have to adopt a "fuck you I'll get mine" attitude or they're passing things over the bargaining table for nothing in return.

Americans got the labor market they deserve: a transactional one.

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

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I have traveled a fair amount via Amtrak, and in general, I don't really like their newer cars. The old ones were fabric, huge bathrooms, spacious and comfy. The double decker ones had a feeling like you were almost in a traveling apartment. These new ones feel like the new plane interiors: more cramped, more plastic, etc. Nothing to scream at the sky about, but solidly a step down IMO. Maybe I'm just getting old lol. I suspect they are more economical though, and therefore more profitable.

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

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As others have noted, the bigger bottleneck on the Northeast Corridor is the tracks themselves (or more precisely, a small number of problematic old railroad bridges and tunnels). Amtrak has been moving to replace them under the Gateway project[1], but it's a significant undertaking given how critical the existing lines are.

[1]: https://amtraknewera.com/gateway/

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

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The fact they don't mention they are any faster is disappointing. I'm all for a better cabin experience (I take the Acela at least once a month) although first class was perfectly acceptable. Much better than flying.

Trains compete with highways, faster speed usually isn't the deciding factor.

That’s only true with short distances or crappy trains. I’ll drive DC to NYC rather than take the train, as it’s cheaper and not much slower. If Acela were a proper high-speed line I might switch. DC to Boston is close to a toss up, ~7 vs ~9 hours, but a proper high-speed train that did it in 2.5 hours would be really attractive.

Re: Amtrak NextGen Acela Debuts on August 28

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Unfortunately, this doesn't seem like it will speed up travel much at all. Based on my understanding, travel times in the northeast are limited not by the top speed of the trains, but by the tracks, and the fact that freight is prioritized.

Honestly, if it's my own money I usually just take the older regional trains. Saving 30 minutes isn't generally worth a $100 or so to me.
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