Considering how they hyped it up (eg. “Lol normies go about their day and have no idea whats coming etc”) they have to show some AGI level llm or stop overhyping their 2% improvements.
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#32A bit unrelated: The "countdown animation", just like Google I/O's, how do people make those? The countdown is probably dynamically generated, as they don't know when the event will actually start? Is there like a JavaScript library, or CapCut template, or something? Especially Google IO, each year is different, it seems purpose built?
They do know when it starts. They have it prerecorded and start it at a specific time. This one started 10 minutes before.
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#33Hopefully, OpenAI makes their APIs more affordable. So far, there are alternative LLMs and services that both outperform and are a fraction of OpenAI's pricing. OpenAI is usually one of (if not) the most expensive option, maybe that's because of the brand identification. Not really sure why people pay that premium.
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#34For those who haven't seen, a little bit of early stuff: Official OpenAI gpt-5 coding examples repo: https://github.com/openai/gpt-5-coding-examples ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44826439 ) Github leak: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44826439
I wish they wouldn't use JS to demonstrate the AI's coding abilities - the internet is full of JS code and at this point I expect them to be good at it.
Show me examples in complex (for lack of a better word) languages to impress me.
I recently used OpenAI models to generate OCaml code, and it was eye opening how much even reasoning models are still just copy and paste machines. The code was full of syntax errors, and they clearly lacked a basic understanding of what functions are in the stdlib vs those from popular (in OCaml terms) libraries.
Maybe GPT-5 is the great leap and I'll have to eat my words, but this experience really made me more pessimistic about AI's potential and the future of programming in general. I'm hoping that in 10 years niche languages are still a thing, and the world doesn't converge toward writing everything in JS just because AIs make it easier to work with.
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#35For day to day coding, I've found Anthropic to be killing it with Sonnet 3.7 and now Sonnet 4, and Claude Code feeling like it has even bigger advantages over when it's used in Cursor (And I can't explain why). I don't even try to use the OpenAI models because it's felt like night and day. Hopefully GPT-5 helps them catch up. Although I'm sure there are 100 people that have their own personal "hopefully GPT-5 fixes m…
Well, since (like you pointed out) using the Anthropic models in different settings is not that exciting anymore, the difference is what Claude Code does. It's a good product.
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#36It's very interesting how memetic the language around different models is. Elon seems to have coined "PhD level intelligence in all topics" and now Sam repeated it in his presentation. Despite it not having an actual meaning. I think OpenAI will coin they've achieved AGI first (as they have incentives to based on the rumored contract with MSFT), and then everyone will claim we've achieved it.
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#37Neat, more scalable intelligence for me to tell "plz fix" over my code
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#38The eval bar I want to see here is simple: over a complex objective (e.g., deploy to prod using a git workflow), how many tasks can GPT-5 stay on track with before it falls off the train. Context is king and it's the most obvious and glaring problem with current models.
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#39# GPT5 all official links Livestream link: https://www.youtube.com/live/0Uu_VJeVVfo Research blog post: https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5/ Developer blog post: https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-for-developers API Docs: https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/latest-model Note the free form function calling documentation: https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/function-calling#con... GPT5 prompting…
The coding examples link returns a 404.
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#40It's only when he stumbled a bit that I could tell for sure (well, mostly) that it wasn't an AI generated video - the corporate speak, body language mannerisms of Sam Altman, camera angles, all seemed pretty plausibly AI-generated!