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Re: Thingino: Open-Source Firmware for IP Cameras

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Here's a good YouTube overview from the developer https://youtu.be/QQV6vjzhylg This looks like a great project!

That's my video. I'm indeed one of the developers but my contributions are mostly around adding new devices, creating installers when possible, and doing most of the Youtube content!

Re: Thingino: Open-Source Firmware for IP Cameras

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post #3

The prior OpenIPC thread from earlier today is literally 75% about thingino: OpenIPC: Open IP Camera Firmware — https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44758463 — Aug 2025 (106 comments) The cheapest camera that you can install this onto, is Cinnado D1, which retails at under $14.99 USD FBA on Amazon Prime in the US: https://github.com/wltechblog/thingino-installers/tree/main/... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBBT5RMP — ≤…

The cheapest supported camera, aside from a given you as a gift, is Jooan A2R from Temu. It is like $3 per piece, brand new. It is a nice little pan/tilt model with a low-end 720p sensor. But it is fast, nice looking, snappy and dirt cheap.

I'm seeing $9.66 on Temu. The description update on this video explains that it's due to tariffs (is it cheaper outside the US?): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfeA8wOEe34

Re: Thingino: Open-Source Firmware for IP Cameras

#33
> The Ingenic Zeratul, Atlas, and Tassadar platforms are a series of System-on-Chip (SoC) solutions designed primarily for battery-powered IoT cameras and smart home devices.

Seems like someone at Ingenic is a StarCraft fan!

https://github.com/themactep/thingino-firmware/wiki/Zeratul-...

Re: Thingino: Open-Source Firmware for IP Cameras

#34
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cheapest supported camera, aside from a given you as a gift, is Jooan A2R from Temu. It is like $3 per piece, brand new. It is a nice little pan/tilt model with a low-end 720p sensor. But it is fast, nice looking, snappy and dirt cheap.

I'm seeing $9.66 on Temu. The description update on this video explains that it's due to tariffs (is it cheaper outside the US?): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfeA8wOEe34

The price fluctuates for sure. I bought 9 of these cams and my average price was right at $4... but now I'm seeing them closer to $10 and i can't recommend them over the Cinnado which you can often get for $10.

Re: Thingino: Open-Source Firmware for IP Cameras

#35
I installed this on a kitty cam. It was very easy, discord was a fun experience. Great software, and great group. Do not underestimate how useful it is to have firmware for your specific device - I bought my cam based on thingino support, and I would do exactly the same again. You need to be ready to tinker since at least my cams were fiddly. But with that expectation, enjoy!

Re: Thingino: Open-Source Firmware for IP Cameras

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This isn't related to Thingino specifically, but I just started trying to find an outdoor camera to watch nightlife, and I have to say, it's been a painful experience. Literally all I want is to get a notification on my phone when an animal moves around in my large yard, and watch a recording of it on my phone soon after. And that, apparently, is very difficult.

The first problem I ran into what "what camera do I buy???" First I looked at trail cams, because those are made for this, right? Except, no, they almost all require a SIM card data plan. There are a few with wifi but they are all "mini hotspots", meaning you have to disconnect from your own wifi to connect to them, and maybe get nofications, and maybe you can stream live video, if they aren't buggy, and if the range reaches. So trail cams are out (and honestly that's fine because there's too many of them to look through as well)

So then I start looking at outdoor "security" cameras that can connect to my wifi, have some kind of app, motion detection, notifications, etc. Now I want to place this at the back of my yard where the animals come in, and there's no power there, so I think battery powered, right?

I spend 2 days doing research to finally buy a Reolink... only to find out 1) everyone says don't get Reolink (honestly it's not that bad), and 2) the motion detection is almost unusable, because all battery cameras only use a PIR sensor (to save battery), and their PIR sensors are not designed like the better trail-cam PIR sensors, so a wide-angle, long-range area won't detect motion (even if you can see the motion in live view). So your best bet for actually detecting motion is a plugged-in IP camera with an RTSP/ONVIF stream and some software to do pixel diffing (and then the "AI" (lol) feature of cropping away false-detection areas and shapes).

So now I'm packaging up the Reolink to return it, and looking at what cameras are cheap and have built-in pixel detection (if possible) or streaming to an NVR (which of course is another expense and thing for me to figure out how to build or buy). But there's still hundreds of different models of all kinds and price points to sift through. And of course there'll be the separate project of "how do I power the thing" (because I'd rather not spend even more on an outdoor-buried-compatible ethernet cable + POE adapter, plus the labor of digging below the frost line for hundreds of feet; but if I don't, i'll need to jury-rig up a spare battery and solar panel, and possibly wifi adapter if the camera doesn't have wifi).

It would be great if there were just a web page that asked me what I was trying to do and told me "buy this." The funny thing is, I've been using ChatGPT throughout this entire process and it failed to inform me of al this at the beginning, so clearly there's more tailored guides needed for people to pick the right thing.

Re: Thingino: Open-Source Firmware for IP Cameras

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This isn't related to Thingino specifically, but I just started trying to find an outdoor camera to watch nightlife, and I have to say, it's been a painful experience. Literally all I want is to get a notification on my phone when an animal moves around in my large yard, and watch a recording of it on my phone soon after. And that, apparently, is very difficult. The first problem I ran into what "what camera do I buy…

> The funny thing is, I've been using ChatGPT throughout this entire process and it failed to inform me of al this at the beginning, so clearly there's more tailored guides needed for people to pick the right thing.

So, you want someone to write a guide, but you admit you're not gonna read it or click on any affiliate links, because you'll just get that info from ChatGPT?

I think this is a problem we're gonna have with the AI age.

If the only consumer of information, is AI, who will be watching the ads and clicking the links to support all the content production?

Re: Thingino: Open-Source Firmware for IP Cameras

#38
post #28

These projects are very cool, especially if you're stuck with a crappy "app only" camera. But lack of even rudimentary AI motion detection and alerting is a bit of a deal breaker.

My guess is that these processors are so underpowered that they're incapable of doing anywhere close to the true AI. So, what'd you'd do, is a regular motion detection (this thing does support that, right?), and then apply the AI at the processing layer on the NAS.

Re: Thingino: Open-Source Firmware for IP Cameras

#39
post #28

These projects are very cool, especially if you're stuck with a crappy "app only" camera. But lack of even rudimentary AI motion detection and alerting is a bit of a deal breaker.

By my understanding that isn't usually the job of the camera itself, they don't have the processing power to do it at a reasonable speed, so I wouldn't expect this firmware to offer it.

That sort of task is usually done by the software that reads from the cameras, be that something local like https://frigate.video/ or the cloud-based ML of the manufacturer of your camera.

Re: Thingino: Open-Source Firmware for IP Cameras

#40
I'm so happy this was posted as I had no idea this exists. I had an old chinese cam, completely out of order with a very loud Chinese voice speaking (no, shouting) when attempting to turn it on. It now works beautifully with Thingio! Thank you!
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