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UN report finds UN reports are not widely read

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Re: UN report finds UN reports are not widely read

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Not quite the level of the 2012 IgNobel litterature price, which went to "The US Government General Accountability Office, for issuing a report about reports about reports that recommends the preparation of a report about the report about reports about reports."

Do you have a link to this report?

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-12-480r

Re: UN report finds UN reports are not widely read

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tbh this is to be expected? I don't read UN reports, I expect reporters to read them and distill the information. I don't read research papers, I expect journalists to read them and present something reasonable to a layman. I don't read the minutae of the laws being passed, I expect lawyers and politicians to debate the finer points. So perhaps my expectations are not being met? Unfortunately I don't have time to pay…

You expect journalists to translate research papers for you?

Damn.

Re: UN report finds UN reports are not widely read

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NGOs are primarily money laundering operations for political purposes. It’s one of the primary mechanics for how capital controls the execution (or not) of policy. Very powerful tool.

In San Francisco a friend ran an event for an LGBT policy non-profit, tons of private security yet no actual members of LGBT, only rich white hetero couples and the discussion was about finances and donations, nothing to do with LGBT policy impact, it was like pulling back a curtain…

Donating to a charity is kind of like outsourcing thinking. There is a market for people who want to help the LGBT community. How do we do that? Idk this group says they know how

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I don't think they mean that citizens don't read the reports (which is to be expected) but politicians?

Politicians don't even read the bills they sign.

This is kind of like saying you don’t read every line of code for the product you ship

Re: UN report finds UN reports are not widely read

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This sounds exactly like “work” today. Certainly matches my experience in big tech. It reminds me, tangentially, of something I did a while ago. I scraped hundreds of environment non-profits and NGO websites from around the world. Many of them are UN affiliated to some degree. I tried to find 3 things: 1) what the non-profit does, 2) what the non-profit produces, 3) what the non-profit accomplished. My ability to gle…

Please ignore if my statements are ignorant.

I always wondered that whenever such reports or surveys come out why don't these organisations make the whole data and methodology public? Are they afraid that if they made it public, people will know how muddy these waters are?

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This is an institutional reflection of the individual tendency to talk about problems rather than solving them. Or, an important variant, where the urge to help those in need is expressed as directing them to "appropriate resources", which are also services that direct those seeking help to other appropriate resources, ad infinitum. The net result is a whole army of people who's expressed goal is to help people but w…

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Re: UN report finds UN reports are not widely read

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tbh this is to be expected? I don't read UN reports, I expect reporters to read them and distill the information. I don't read research papers, I expect journalists to read them and present something reasonable to a layman. I don't read the minutae of the laws being passed, I expect lawyers and politicians to debate the finer points. So perhaps my expectations are not being met? Unfortunately I don't have time to pay…

UN reports aren't useful for journalists because they are basically popularity contests between countries. The information in the report mostly just reflects the interests of the country preparing it, or who has a majority seat on the particular group it's being prepared for.

They are not like research studies where truth is the objective.

Diplomats care about it, as a kind of quiet "game of thrones" as it were, no one else cares.

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