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Terence Tao on the suspension of UCLA grants

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Re: Terence Tao on the suspension of UCLA grants

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thats why they should refrain from engaging in politics in the first place. the day the wind changes you lose.

Then it's maybe not a free country anymore if you have to think about how your actions are perceived by the president in power at every step.

I hate to state the obvious but if your livelihood depends on federal grants then by all means you need to take in account the fact that oresidents can change after a few years.

Re: Terence Tao on the suspension of UCLA grants

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It's really telling when an invaluable intellectual powerhouse specialized in a non politicized field gets its funds taken away because of politics Edit: This is a comment about the administration, not Tao.

thats why they should refrain from engaging in politics in the first place. the day the wind changes you lose.

As a band recently put it in a festival: They'd like their music to be non-political, but sometimes politics enter music and then you have no choice.

Re: Terence Tao on the suspension of UCLA grants

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UCLA has an endowment of 3.8bn$. Whilst I'm sympathetic to their desire to be further government financed for the work they do, I feel like government financing should be made available to those that actually need the money. The attitude that you have access to government funds even if you have the ability to pay yourself needs to change.

California higher education in general does not need of federal funds. These are typically mutually beneficially projects that doesn't necessarily need to be partnered with the US government.

The bigger problem is the recipients of these cuts seem to think it is about an "issue", and are incapable of accepting they are having sand kicked in their face.

Re: Terence Tao on the suspension of UCLA grants

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Fuck it hurts me to say this as a former China hawk. But: How does Chinese immigration work for STEM? What does residency look like for someone making $500+ k in America? What are the Y Combinators? (No CCP Tans.)

You get a job offer for very large amounts of money and their HR will handle you getting a work visa. If you’re making very large amounts of money and still feel like living in China after five years apply for a green card. You would have to be insane to consider founding or investing in a Chinese startup when you could do so in Silicon Valley or even NYC or Austin.

> You would have to be insane to consider founding or investing in a Chinese startup when you could do so in Silicon Valley or even NYC or Austin.

With all due respect, you´re not thinking long-term, or dare I say even medium-term.

Re: Terence Tao on the suspension of UCLA grants

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all the best people are going to move to china anyway stop rearranging chairs on the deck of a sinking ship and move on terence

Really? The situation in China (and Europe, for that matter) is far worse. Obviously Europe is much better than China for academics, but the US is still miles above that. So sorry, that won't happen. This will "just" disappear, with no replacement.

Re: Terence Tao on the suspension of UCLA grants

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Fuck it hurts me to say this as a former China hawk. But: How does Chinese immigration work for STEM? What does residency look like for someone making $500+ k in America? What are the Y Combinators? (No CCP Tans.)

Why reach for China before Europe? Similar sized economies; much smaller language barrier for an immigrant from the USA; and with stories like this being what makes you ask the question, relatively more freedom.

Re: Terence Tao on the suspension of UCLA grants

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The only people to blame for this are the Universities who are blatantly violating civil rights law -- even after a Supreme Court ruling! Terence and other academics who have had nothing to do with promotion of this blatant discrimination should be angry at their University leadership and administrators for this outcome, not the Trump administration who is doing THE RIGHT THING.

The faculty should take this opportunity to make the Universities drastically reduce the dead weight of administrators who have grown much more than faculty and produce no value.

Re: Terence Tao on the suspension of UCLA grants

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I have all my respect to Tao. But I think it's very justified for the federal to do something (not necessarily this thing) against institutions that show racist behaviors. e.g. Little Rock Nine.

And no college being defunded right now has shown any racist behaviors whatsoever.

So are you in support of the current defunding?

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