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Re: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the AI Bubble

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>Article praising LLMs. >Look inside. >Written by someone having a stake in LLM business. Every time.

Alternatively, would someone not having a stake in LLM business have an incentive to disparage LLMs?

Lol that makes zero sense - not having a stake in something is literally the definition of not having an incentive.

Re: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the AI Bubble

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I totaly agree with the author. Not even the smartphone or the iphone brought such a sudden change to so many people and in many cases, for free. I know we want to oppose this huge thing just because it doesn't make sense moraly but when you learn using this tool there is no way back. Just imagine what is coming in the next 5-10 years. Even if the tools remain at the same level as today, people have learned to use it…

Or we will see people become too dependent on it to see the forest for the trees on countless problems throughout the systems of society and business.

Re: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the AI Bubble

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>Article praising LLMs. >Look inside. >Written by someone having a stake in LLM business. Every time.

Alternatively, would someone not having a stake in LLM business have an incentive to disparage LLMs?

Lots of people have a stake in disparaging AI. That's why there are so many low quality anti-LLM comments on HN lately

Re: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the AI Bubble

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I think a key point from this article that I agree strongly with is the simple point that it is crucial that everyone recognise we are currently in an AI bubble . I often find people contest this with the non-sequitur of "No, it's not a bubble, there is real value there. We are building things with it". The fact there is real value in the technology does not contradict in any way that we are in a bubble. It may even…

The fact everyone thinks we are in an AI bubble is practically proof we are not in an AI bubble. The crowd is always wrong on these things. Just like everyone "knew" we were going into a deep recession sometime in late 2022, early 2023. The crowd has an incredibly short memory too. What it means is that people are really cautious about AI. That is not a self reinforcing, fear of missing out, explosive process bubble.…

There is absolutely FOMO. It's even being deliberately stoked. "AI won't take your job. People using AI will." This is this hype cycle's "have fun being poor."

Re: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the AI Bubble

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I think a key point from this article that I agree strongly with is the simple point that it is crucial that everyone recognise we are currently in an AI bubble . I often find people contest this with the non-sequitur of "No, it's not a bubble, there is real value there. We are building things with it". The fact there is real value in the technology does not contradict in any way that we are in a bubble. It may even…

The fact everyone thinks we are in an AI bubble is practically proof we are not in an AI bubble. The crowd is always wrong on these things. Just like everyone "knew" we were going into a deep recession sometime in late 2022, early 2023. The crowd has an incredibly short memory too. What it means is that people are really cautious about AI. That is not a self reinforcing, fear of missing out, explosive process bubble.…

technical ICs actually trialing the AI tools think we’re in a bubble. Executives, boards, directors and managers are still tumbling head over heels down the mountain in a race to shovel more money into the fire, because their engineering orgs are not delivering results and they are desperate to find a solution

Re: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the AI Bubble

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>Article praising LLMs. >Look inside. >Written by someone having a stake in LLM business. Every time.

right yea,

Whens the last time you saw management tell you which compiler or toolchain you need to use to build your code ? But now we have CEOs and management dictating how coding should be done.

In the article the author admits: "I started coding again last year. But I hadn't written production code since 2012" and then goes on to say: "While established developers debate whether AI will replace them, these kids are shipping.".

Then I ask myself, what are they selling ? and lo and behold, it is AI/ML consulting.

Re: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the AI Bubble

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him..." A rhetorical technique as old as dirt, but apparently still effective.

"Now let it work. Mischief, thou art afoot, take thou what course thou wilt!" But seriously, it isn't on me to justify my skepticism of the extreme claim, "We are in a race to build machine super-intelligence" because that skepticism is the rational default. Instead it's the burden of people who claim that we are in fact in that race, just like "self driving next year" was a claim for others to prove, just like "Cryp…

Just to clarify, I meant the rhetorical technique was being employed by the author of the article. He's downplaying the "AGI race" in order to normalize and validate the byproduct of the hype bubble to be as "normal and reliable as electricity and TCP/IP". It's clearly meant to attempt to disarm and appeal to skeptics, but there is more than enough dog whistling and performative contradiction in there to make it clear the true intention of the article -- praising Caesar.

For the record, I would be more inclined to be sympathetic towards the author if any receipts (i.e., repos) were produced at all, but as you so correctly stated, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I agree you do not have burden of defending the author's claims, apologies if that was not clear.

Re: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the AI Bubble

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post #16

I think a key point from this article that I agree strongly with is the simple point that it is crucial that everyone recognise we are currently in an AI bubble . I often find people contest this with the non-sequitur of "No, it's not a bubble, there is real value there. We are building things with it". The fact there is real value in the technology does not contradict in any way that we are in a bubble. It may even…

The fact everyone thinks we are in an AI bubble is practically proof we are not in an AI bubble. The crowd is always wrong on these things. Just like everyone "knew" we were going into a deep recession sometime in late 2022, early 2023. The crowd has an incredibly short memory too. What it means is that people are really cautious about AI. That is not a self reinforcing, fear of missing out, explosive process bubble.…

We might be in a bull market. The question is for how long. I would guess less than a year considering the market-wide P/E.

Re: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the AI Bubble

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Great article! I share the experience mentioned in the article, LLMs facilitate a head-on interaction with any topic. It is similar to instructional YouTube videos (that imo were already transformative) but with the ability to ask detailed questions. And this is what becomes better with each iteration. When creative communities finally settle down on generative AI there will be not just a plethora of AI slop, but so…

There’s already a new golden age of indie low budget movies. Those guys will not use AI to generate significant parts of their content, because it defeats the point of making an indie movie at all. I never cease to be shocked at how little tech people think of what creative people do and why they do it.

You seem to have an agenda here. I am sure there are many many visions of special effects and story arcs that could never be realized because of not being able to pull it off. This will change now. Green screens and sophisticated SFX tech will not be necessary to create fantastical images. You may call these kind of movies low brow entertainment but I am very curious to see indie movie interpretations of my favorite litrpg books.
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