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Re: Observable Notebooks 2.0 Technology Preview

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Observable has always demo'd well and looked cool, but I never understood the business application. Does anyone use it for work?

I work on a quantitative user research team, and we've found notebooks to be really useful for crunching and visualizing the data from experiments we've run.

I work at Google and my UXR colleagues are more comfortable with Python than JS, so we use Google Colab, but I'd use Observable if those weren't true.

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I wish Bostock et al got paid. This is literally the pain of doing open source for some. You basically watch as other people get rich off of your life’s work. That rambling aside, I like the idea of having a desktop app. Not sure where this notebook fits in with all their other products. They have the Framework which is actually pretty useful.

> I wish Bostock et al got paid.

They do get paid. Observable sells team and enterprise licenses: https://observablehq.com/pricing

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I used the older online notebooks for a bit and really loved the immediacy but I’m always hurting for TypeScript syntax support. The is this a thing w 2.0? Something I’ll need to add later with Vite and only available locally? It was a bunmer to not be able to copy paste code from my projects into observable. With local notebooks I see more potential for homegrown workflow but for me the benefit was always the platfo…

We’re interested in adding a TypeScript cell mode, probably first with type stripping rather than validating types. I was hoping for a pure JavaScript implementation; maybe we’ll try https://github.com/bloomberg/ts-blank-space ? I’ve also been looking at https://github.com/val-town/codemirror-ts for the editor, but it’s a lot of machinery.

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Re: Observable Notebooks 2.0 Technology Preview

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post #32
post #28

I wish Bostock et al got paid. This is literally the pain of doing open source for some. You basically watch as other people get rich off of your life’s work. That rambling aside, I like the idea of having a desktop app. Not sure where this notebook fits in with all their other products. They have the Framework which is actually pretty useful.

> I wish Bostock et al got paid. They do get paid. Observable sells team and enterprise licenses: https://observablehq.com/pricing

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Out of curiosity, why ` ` as an element and not a standard web-component ` ` or something like that if the goal is to go all-in on "normal" web development?

I was wondering the same.

FWIW, the HTML custom elements spec does require a hyphen: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/custom-elements.html#...

Re: Observable Notebooks 2.0 Technology Preview

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post #30

The updated syntax looks brilliant — can't wait to try it out by upgrading some of my older notebooks! I was worried about the future of Observable since the Canvas announcement — it felt like notebooks were being slowly phased out, but I'm glad to be proven wrong. Any timeline on bringing the new format to the Web editor? For me, the biggest draw of Observable is being able to instantly start exploring and visualizi…

Thank you. I don’t want to commit to a public timeline on the web editor yet, but rest assured it is a top priority, and we also value the convenience of a web editor, instant collaboration, and community!

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#38

It's pretty clear the future is not really here yet when the LLM can't even debug a simple table join issue on its own. The code to produce the table and chart should reasonably be like 2 lines of code with proper tool design. It looks like the LLM accomplishes it in 100 LOC and still can't manage to do it without significant human intervention. And this is the take they published to sell the thing!

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post #28

I wish Bostock et al got paid. This is literally the pain of doing open source for some. You basically watch as other people get rich off of your life’s work. That rambling aside, I like the idea of having a desktop app. Not sure where this notebook fits in with all their other products. They have the Framework which is actually pretty useful.

Who parks a Porsche in front of a fancy Pacific Heights (San Francisco) mansion with the license plate "D3JS"?

Re: Observable Notebooks 2.0 Technology Preview

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post #28

I wish Bostock et al got paid. This is literally the pain of doing open source for some. You basically watch as other people get rich off of your life’s work. That rambling aside, I like the idea of having a desktop app. Not sure where this notebook fits in with all their other products. They have the Framework which is actually pretty useful.

Who parks a Porsche in front of a fancy Pacific Heights (San Francisco) mansion with the license plate "D3JS"?

This is why I come to HN. Good for Bostock if true!
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