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Internet Archive is now a federal depository library

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Re: Internet Archive is now a federal depository library

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post #9

Is it likely that the Executive Branch would try to exert control over it to remove "inconvenient" data?

They already remove “inconvenient” webpages on the Wayback Machine if someone asks nicely enough. If I remember correctly, if you use it to save a software company’s documentation pages or evidence of something embarrassing like a potential data breach, they could remove it if the company asks. I think Oracle might have done something like this before.

Can't say I blame them, I wouldn't want to go up against Oracle's lawyers either.

Re: Internet Archive is now a federal depository library

#33
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait til you hear about my local library. You can walk in and read or borrow any book without paying!

Sounds VERY Communist, or Socialist, or some other scary thing. Are you sure it's legal? Why, the AUTHORS and PUBLISHERS are being denied the revenues they would get if you would buy the book; or at least rent it. So, are libraries theft of Authors' and Publishers' renumeration? (And, to think, the richest man in the world at the time, Andrew Carnegie, endowed so many Libraries!)

Your shift key seems to keep getting stuck.

Re: Internet Archive is now a federal depository library

#35

"California Sen. Alex Padilla made the designation in a letter sent Thursday to the Government Publishing Office" What does this mean. U.S. Senators can unilaterally designate federal depositories?

It sounds like it was at the request of IA:

> "...in response to the enclosed letter I received from the Founder and Digital Librarian of the Internet Archive, Mr. Brewster Kahle, I am designating the Internet Archive as a federal depository library in California."

Which seems a lot more agreeable than unilateral designation (which is also how I initially read this).

Re: Internet Archive is now a federal depository library

#36

Unneeded materials from other depository libraries can now be transferred to the Internet Archive. Under 44 USC § 1912, depository libraries may dispose of outdated material, but must first offer to transfer to nearby depository institutions.

What is "outdated material" for a library? Isn't that precisely where you go to find "outdated material" is a library's archives?

Re: Internet Archive is now a federal depository library

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My take on this is that in desperation to become a real library despite Kahle's radical hatred of content creators, Kahle will end up dragging the legislative narrative in a direction that takes down real libraries with him. He will almost certainly broadcast his status as a federal depository library as part of his defenses in his numerous lawsuits.

One selfish man unwilling to recognize he is doing more harm than good.

Re: Internet Archive is now a federal depository library

#38

Unneeded materials from other depository libraries can now be transferred to the Internet Archive. Under 44 USC § 1912, depository libraries may dispose of outdated material, but must first offer to transfer to nearby depository institutions.

What is "outdated material" for a library? Isn't that precisely where you go to find "outdated material" is a library's archives?

Libraries have an entire concept of weeding, and numerous criteria for doing so: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weeding_(library)

Libraries are constantly bringing in new materials and very few are capable of constantly increasing in size to match. I believe national libraries like the Library of Congress tend not to weed, but they do have to offload material to satellite locations and storage facilities.

Re: Internet Archive is now a federal depository library

#39

Unneeded materials from other depository libraries can now be transferred to the Internet Archive. Under 44 USC § 1912, depository libraries may dispose of outdated material, but must first offer to transfer to nearby depository institutions.

What is "outdated material" for a library? Isn't that precisely where you go to find "outdated material" is a library's archives?

Stuff like the printed tax code of 1965 or Borland Pascal 1992 manual. Once you have it digitized it's a waste of space for libraries to have a physical copy because basically no one needs it.

Re: Internet Archive is now a federal depository library

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My take on this is that in desperation to become a real library despite Kahle's radical hatred of content creators, Kahle will end up dragging the legislative narrative in a direction that takes down real libraries with him. He will almost certainly broadcast his status as a federal depository library as part of his defenses in his numerous lawsuits. One selfish man unwilling to recognize he is doing more harm than g…

They were already recognized by the state of California as a library, and have received federal funds for infrastructure under that designation. They’ve also been accepted into consortiums made up of other libraries in the US. Whether you believe they’re a library is immaterial.
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